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Could the museum Saturn V's be refitted for one more flight?
Why not build Saturn V's again?What will be NASA's successor to the Saturn V rocket?Launch roll program for the Saturn five rocketWhy not build Saturn V's again?What would be the configuration and performance for Saturn V with all stages RP-1/LOX?How had the Saturn V lifting capacity changed throughout the Apollo program?Was 39A built with a rocket much larger than the Saturn V in mind?Saturn launch precautions for clearing tower?Did the Saturn V rocket have any purely aesthetic features that didn't serve an actual function?Vented interstage for the final stage of Saturn VUse of different fuels for stages of Saturn V
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Even though we will not build new Saturn Vs, there currently exist three Saturn Vs in museums. Could any of these rockets be refitted for flight? If not, what specific component would prevent the program from going forward?
This question is meant to address the rocket itself. I understand that the VAB, crawlers, and launch infrastructure would need retrofitting as well, not to mention finding and training crews.
nasa saturn-v
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
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asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
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add a comment |
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Even though we will not build new Saturn Vs, there currently exist three Saturn Vs in museums. Could any of these rockets be refitted for flight? If not, what specific component would prevent the program from going forward?
This question is meant to address the rocket itself. I understand that the VAB, crawlers, and launch infrastructure would need retrofitting as well, not to mention finding and training crews.
nasa saturn-v
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
$endgroup$
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You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
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– Uwe
6 hours ago
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@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
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– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
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Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
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– vsz
27 mins ago
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@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
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– JMac
12 mins ago
add a comment |
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Even though we will not build new Saturn Vs, there currently exist three Saturn Vs in museums. Could any of these rockets be refitted for flight? If not, what specific component would prevent the program from going forward?
This question is meant to address the rocket itself. I understand that the VAB, crawlers, and launch infrastructure would need retrofitting as well, not to mention finding and training crews.
nasa saturn-v
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
$endgroup$
Even though we will not build new Saturn Vs, there currently exist three Saturn Vs in museums. Could any of these rockets be refitted for flight? If not, what specific component would prevent the program from going forward?
This question is meant to address the rocket itself. I understand that the VAB, crawlers, and launch infrastructure would need retrofitting as well, not to mention finding and training crews.
nasa saturn-v
nasa saturn-v
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
edited 2 hours ago
Michael Seifert
50327
50327
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
asked 7 hours ago
Happy PhantomHappy Phantom
31319
31319
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You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
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– Uwe
6 hours ago
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@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
$endgroup$
– vsz
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
$endgroup$
– JMac
12 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
$endgroup$
– Uwe
6 hours ago
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@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
$endgroup$
– vsz
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
$endgroup$
– JMac
12 mins ago
$begingroup$
You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
$endgroup$
– Uwe
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
$endgroup$
– Uwe
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
$endgroup$
– vsz
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
$endgroup$
– vsz
27 mins ago
$begingroup$
@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
$endgroup$
– JMac
12 mins ago
$begingroup$
@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
$endgroup$
– JMac
12 mins ago
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The one at the Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville has been stored outside so it wasn't in good shape.
Displayed outdoors and on its side since 1969, the rocket was exhibiting widespread paint failure, moisture infiltration, an overall accumulation of atmospheric and biological soiling, and corrosion of its complex system of metal alloys, including aluminum. Non-metal materials such as polyurethane foam, various types of plastics including Tedlar®, phenolic resin, and fiberglass composites, had significantly deteriorated. The spacecraft portion of the Saturn V display (Lunar Adapter, Service Module, Command Module and Launch Escape System) were full scale 1970s era mock-ups constructed of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. The Command Module, constructed almost completely out of plywood and fiberglass, was is very poor condition
The others have been indoors so should be a bit better. The Huntsville rocket was incomplete. It's been restored from the above condition, but that's to 'museum exhibit' state, not 'functional rocket' state.
They'd need significant amount of work to be usable again:
- complete inspection of the metalwork, with replacement of any corroded parts. That alone is years of work. To do an inspection to the standard you want for spaceflight, you may have to disassemble most of the rocket (to make sure you get to all the corners that become inaccessible after assembly).
- replacement of all seals and other materials that can deteriorate. This may include the wiring.
- replacement of all the electronics
- new turbopumps
- new LOX tanks, maybe (LOX reacts with lots of things, there's no way to guarantee the tanks are clean)
- the Huntsville one was missing its CM, SM an LEM, so they'd have to be built.
- other parts may have been cannibalized, no way to know until you strip the rocket.
IOW, you're better off building new Saturn Vs.
I'm tempted to compare it to building vs restoring cars. A thorough restoration can easily take a year. Handbuilt cars are built in weeks...
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
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Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
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– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
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@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
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– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
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New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
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– Uwe
2 hours ago
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@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
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– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
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The one at the Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville has been stored outside so it wasn't in good shape.
Displayed outdoors and on its side since 1969, the rocket was exhibiting widespread paint failure, moisture infiltration, an overall accumulation of atmospheric and biological soiling, and corrosion of its complex system of metal alloys, including aluminum. Non-metal materials such as polyurethane foam, various types of plastics including Tedlar®, phenolic resin, and fiberglass composites, had significantly deteriorated. The spacecraft portion of the Saturn V display (Lunar Adapter, Service Module, Command Module and Launch Escape System) were full scale 1970s era mock-ups constructed of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. The Command Module, constructed almost completely out of plywood and fiberglass, was is very poor condition
The others have been indoors so should be a bit better. The Huntsville rocket was incomplete. It's been restored from the above condition, but that's to 'museum exhibit' state, not 'functional rocket' state.
They'd need significant amount of work to be usable again:
- complete inspection of the metalwork, with replacement of any corroded parts. That alone is years of work. To do an inspection to the standard you want for spaceflight, you may have to disassemble most of the rocket (to make sure you get to all the corners that become inaccessible after assembly).
- replacement of all seals and other materials that can deteriorate. This may include the wiring.
- replacement of all the electronics
- new turbopumps
- new LOX tanks, maybe (LOX reacts with lots of things, there's no way to guarantee the tanks are clean)
- the Huntsville one was missing its CM, SM an LEM, so they'd have to be built.
- other parts may have been cannibalized, no way to know until you strip the rocket.
IOW, you're better off building new Saturn Vs.
I'm tempted to compare it to building vs restoring cars. A thorough restoration can easily take a year. Handbuilt cars are built in weeks...
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
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New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
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@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The one at the Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville has been stored outside so it wasn't in good shape.
Displayed outdoors and on its side since 1969, the rocket was exhibiting widespread paint failure, moisture infiltration, an overall accumulation of atmospheric and biological soiling, and corrosion of its complex system of metal alloys, including aluminum. Non-metal materials such as polyurethane foam, various types of plastics including Tedlar®, phenolic resin, and fiberglass composites, had significantly deteriorated. The spacecraft portion of the Saturn V display (Lunar Adapter, Service Module, Command Module and Launch Escape System) were full scale 1970s era mock-ups constructed of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. The Command Module, constructed almost completely out of plywood and fiberglass, was is very poor condition
The others have been indoors so should be a bit better. The Huntsville rocket was incomplete. It's been restored from the above condition, but that's to 'museum exhibit' state, not 'functional rocket' state.
They'd need significant amount of work to be usable again:
- complete inspection of the metalwork, with replacement of any corroded parts. That alone is years of work. To do an inspection to the standard you want for spaceflight, you may have to disassemble most of the rocket (to make sure you get to all the corners that become inaccessible after assembly).
- replacement of all seals and other materials that can deteriorate. This may include the wiring.
- replacement of all the electronics
- new turbopumps
- new LOX tanks, maybe (LOX reacts with lots of things, there's no way to guarantee the tanks are clean)
- the Huntsville one was missing its CM, SM an LEM, so they'd have to be built.
- other parts may have been cannibalized, no way to know until you strip the rocket.
IOW, you're better off building new Saturn Vs.
I'm tempted to compare it to building vs restoring cars. A thorough restoration can easily take a year. Handbuilt cars are built in weeks...
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The one at the Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville has been stored outside so it wasn't in good shape.
Displayed outdoors and on its side since 1969, the rocket was exhibiting widespread paint failure, moisture infiltration, an overall accumulation of atmospheric and biological soiling, and corrosion of its complex system of metal alloys, including aluminum. Non-metal materials such as polyurethane foam, various types of plastics including Tedlar®, phenolic resin, and fiberglass composites, had significantly deteriorated. The spacecraft portion of the Saturn V display (Lunar Adapter, Service Module, Command Module and Launch Escape System) were full scale 1970s era mock-ups constructed of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. The Command Module, constructed almost completely out of plywood and fiberglass, was is very poor condition
The others have been indoors so should be a bit better. The Huntsville rocket was incomplete. It's been restored from the above condition, but that's to 'museum exhibit' state, not 'functional rocket' state.
They'd need significant amount of work to be usable again:
- complete inspection of the metalwork, with replacement of any corroded parts. That alone is years of work. To do an inspection to the standard you want for spaceflight, you may have to disassemble most of the rocket (to make sure you get to all the corners that become inaccessible after assembly).
- replacement of all seals and other materials that can deteriorate. This may include the wiring.
- replacement of all the electronics
- new turbopumps
- new LOX tanks, maybe (LOX reacts with lots of things, there's no way to guarantee the tanks are clean)
- the Huntsville one was missing its CM, SM an LEM, so they'd have to be built.
- other parts may have been cannibalized, no way to know until you strip the rocket.
IOW, you're better off building new Saturn Vs.
I'm tempted to compare it to building vs restoring cars. A thorough restoration can easily take a year. Handbuilt cars are built in weeks...
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
$endgroup$
The one at the Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville has been stored outside so it wasn't in good shape.
Displayed outdoors and on its side since 1969, the rocket was exhibiting widespread paint failure, moisture infiltration, an overall accumulation of atmospheric and biological soiling, and corrosion of its complex system of metal alloys, including aluminum. Non-metal materials such as polyurethane foam, various types of plastics including Tedlar®, phenolic resin, and fiberglass composites, had significantly deteriorated. The spacecraft portion of the Saturn V display (Lunar Adapter, Service Module, Command Module and Launch Escape System) were full scale 1970s era mock-ups constructed of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. The Command Module, constructed almost completely out of plywood and fiberglass, was is very poor condition
The others have been indoors so should be a bit better. The Huntsville rocket was incomplete. It's been restored from the above condition, but that's to 'museum exhibit' state, not 'functional rocket' state.
They'd need significant amount of work to be usable again:
- complete inspection of the metalwork, with replacement of any corroded parts. That alone is years of work. To do an inspection to the standard you want for spaceflight, you may have to disassemble most of the rocket (to make sure you get to all the corners that become inaccessible after assembly).
- replacement of all seals and other materials that can deteriorate. This may include the wiring.
- replacement of all the electronics
- new turbopumps
- new LOX tanks, maybe (LOX reacts with lots of things, there's no way to guarantee the tanks are clean)
- the Huntsville one was missing its CM, SM an LEM, so they'd have to be built.
- other parts may have been cannibalized, no way to know until you strip the rocket.
IOW, you're better off building new Saturn Vs.
I'm tempted to compare it to building vs restoring cars. A thorough restoration can easily take a year. Handbuilt cars are built in weeks...
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
edited 5 hours ago
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
answered 6 hours ago
HobbesHobbes
95.1k2267422
95.1k2267422
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Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
$begingroup$
Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
$begingroup$
Thank you Hobbes! I suppose that inspection, repair, and proper cleaning would be easier than to rebuild a substantial slice of the US aerospace industry as it existed circa 1965!
$endgroup$
– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
1
1
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
@HappyPhantom: Is it obvious that your "inspection, repair and proper cleaning" can be done without doing that first too? There are plenty of "replacement" and "new parts" in Hobbes's list.
$endgroup$
– Henning Makholm
3 hours ago
$begingroup$
New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
New electronics, new guidance software and new turbopumps would require a new man rating of the rocket. But before man rating is finished, all museum Saturn V rockets are used,
$endgroup$
– Uwe
2 hours ago
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@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
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– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
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@HenningMakholm: No, I am not sure. That is why Inspection is the first step.
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– Happy Phantom
53 mins ago
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You expect a rocket stored in the open for more than two decades to be refittable for flight? See wikipedia. Only one consist of stages intended for launch.
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– Uwe
6 hours ago
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@Uwe: Thank you for chiming in! I'm not expecting, I'm asking. This Mustang had been stored in the open for four and a half decades, and then was restarted recently. I'm sure that it is not a matter of simply filling up the H2, O2, and RP-1. What are the bottlenecks, and are they surmountable? As you mention, we do have a complete rocket consisting of flight stages.
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– Happy Phantom
6 hours ago
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Won't this raise the ship of Theseus problem? If too many parts have to be replaced in order to make it functional, can we still call it the original one? If yes, even then it will be much much cheaper to design and build a completely new rocket from scratch, then to repair or rebuild the original one.
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– vsz
27 mins ago
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@vsz I assume if you were looking at it from a practical perspective, the important part would be determining if it does require so many replacements as it make it more expensive than one from scratch. As far as just general interest goes, "can it be done" is a pretty interesting question IMO.
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– JMac
12 mins ago