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Are objects structures and/or vice versa?


Are cave walls considered objects for the purpose of spells - and how much of one?How can I keep Darkness on a monsterCan a Shadow Dragon become a Dracolich or vice versa?Can radiant damage destroy objects?Do Devils leverage demons and vice versa?Can you attack from inside Rope Trick and vice versa?Are you considered to be wearing/carrying a restraining net/rope/etc. for the purpose of fire based spells?Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball?Can you leave objects behind in the ethereal plane?How does Shatter damage objects, if objects are immune to con-save effects?For a multiclassed cleric/wizard, can cleric class features be applied to my wizard spells, and vice versa?






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An interesting issue came up in a game we were playing recently: Our party was on an airship and attacked by flying young dragons. My sorcerer cast a spell that triggered a wild magic surge and rolled a self-centered fireball (at 20,000 feet, whee!).



Here's the issue. Fireball says:




The fire spreads around corners. It ignites flammable objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.




I've noticed that certain monsters have the "Siege Monster" feature which says:




Siege Monster. The [monster] deals double damage to objects and structures.




This suggests that objects and structures are legally different things and therefore Fireball would ignite an object but not a structure.



But then, perhaps a structure is a type of object? What is the nature/relationship of these two classifications of entities?



(For what it's worth, we ruled that the rope rigging was flammable because rope appears on the gear item table).






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An interesting issue came up in a game we were playing recently: Our party was on an airship and attacked by flying young dragons. My sorcerer cast a spell that triggered a wild magic surge and rolled a self-centered fireball (at 20,000 feet, whee!).



Here's the issue. Fireball says:




The fire spreads around corners. It ignites flammable objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.




I've noticed that certain monsters have the "Siege Monster" feature which says:




Siege Monster. The [monster] deals double damage to objects and structures.




This suggests that objects and structures are legally different things and therefore Fireball would ignite an object but not a structure.



But then, perhaps a structure is a type of object? What is the nature/relationship of these two classifications of entities?



(For what it's worth, we ruled that the rope rigging was flammable because rope appears on the gear item table).






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An interesting issue came up in a game we were playing recently: Our party was on an airship and attacked by flying young dragons. My sorcerer cast a spell that triggered a wild magic surge and rolled a self-centered fireball (at 20,000 feet, whee!).



Here's the issue. Fireball says:




The fire spreads around corners. It ignites flammable objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.




I've noticed that certain monsters have the "Siege Monster" feature which says:




Siege Monster. The [monster] deals double damage to objects and structures.




This suggests that objects and structures are legally different things and therefore Fireball would ignite an object but not a structure.



But then, perhaps a structure is a type of object? What is the nature/relationship of these two classifications of entities?



(For what it's worth, we ruled that the rope rigging was flammable because rope appears on the gear item table).






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An interesting issue came up in a game we were playing recently: Our party was on an airship and attacked by flying young dragons. My sorcerer cast a spell that triggered a wild magic surge and rolled a self-centered fireball (at 20,000 feet, whee!).



Here's the issue. Fireball says:




The fire spreads around corners. It ignites flammable objects in the area that aren't being worn or carried.




I've noticed that certain monsters have the "Siege Monster" feature which says:




Siege Monster. The [monster] deals double damage to objects and structures.




This suggests that objects and structures are legally different things and therefore Fireball would ignite an object but not a structure.



But then, perhaps a structure is a type of object? What is the nature/relationship of these two classifications of entities?



(For what it's worth, we ruled that the rope rigging was flammable because rope appears on the gear item table).






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A structure is not an object, but is made of objects



From page 246 of the DMG and the basic rules:




For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.




Lacking a definition from the source books, a "structure" is defined by its common English definition, which would be:




the arrangement of and relations between the parts or elements of something complex.




Thus a structure might be considered to be "a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects".






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    It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
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A structure is not an object, but is made of objects



From page 246 of the DMG and the basic rules:




For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.




Lacking a definition from the source books, a "structure" is defined by its common English definition, which would be:




the arrangement of and relations between the parts or elements of something complex.




Thus a structure might be considered to be "a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects".






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    $begingroup$
    You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
    $endgroup$
    – keithcurtis
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    $begingroup$
    "Is made of objects" that jibes with our table-side ruling of the rope rigging being flammable but not the deck planking.
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$begingroup$

A structure is not an object, but is made of objects



From page 246 of the DMG and the basic rules:




For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.




Lacking a definition from the source books, a "structure" is defined by its common English definition, which would be:




the arrangement of and relations between the parts or elements of something complex.




Thus a structure might be considered to be "a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects".






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    $begingroup$
    You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
    $endgroup$
    – keithcurtis
    5 hours ago






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$begingroup$

A structure is not an object, but is made of objects



From page 246 of the DMG and the basic rules:




For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.




Lacking a definition from the source books, a "structure" is defined by its common English definition, which would be:




the arrangement of and relations between the parts or elements of something complex.




Thus a structure might be considered to be "a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects".






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A structure is not an object, but is made of objects



From page 246 of the DMG and the basic rules:




For the purpose of these rules, an object is a discrete, inanimate item like a window, door, sword, book, table, chair, or stone, not a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects.




Lacking a definition from the source books, a "structure" is defined by its common English definition, which would be:




the arrangement of and relations between the parts or elements of something complex.




Thus a structure might be considered to be "a building or a vehicle that is composed of many other objects".







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    You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
    $endgroup$
    – keithcurtis
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    "Is made of objects" that jibes with our table-side ruling of the rope rigging being flammable but not the deck planking.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
    5 hours ago












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
    $endgroup$
    – NautArch
    5 hours ago







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
    $endgroup$
    – Mwr247
    5 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
    $endgroup$
    – keithcurtis
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    "Is made of objects" that jibes with our table-side ruling of the rope rigging being flammable but not the deck planking.
    $endgroup$
    – Rykara
    5 hours ago







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You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
$endgroup$
– NautArch
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You probably didn't even need to go with the common english. The object rules call out vehicle or building separately. But +1 anyway :)
$endgroup$
– NautArch
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@NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
$endgroup$
– Mwr247
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
@NautArch Agreed, but the object rules don't specifically state buildings or vehicles as structures. I wanted to solidify the assertion that 5e itself doesn't define what a structure is, and so we can fall back on the common definition to reach that conclusion with certainty.
$endgroup$
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It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
$endgroup$
– keithcurtis
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$begingroup$
It might be worth pointing out that common sense would indicate that a burning object could certainly eventually set fire to a structure (GM adjudication, of course). I don't think this sort of thing needs to be made explicit within the rules themselves, though.
$endgroup$
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"Is made of objects" that jibes with our table-side ruling of the rope rigging being flammable but not the deck planking.
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