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The rules for Prince Arnaud say:




When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.




but for the Princess, they say:




If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.




https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php



If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?










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    The rules for Prince Arnaud say:




    When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.




    but for the Princess, they say:




    If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.




    https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php



    If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?










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      The rules for Prince Arnaud say:




      When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.




      but for the Princess, they say:




      If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.




      https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php



      If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?










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      The rules for Prince Arnaud say:




      When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (do not apply its effect) and draws a new card.




      but for the Princess, they say:




      If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.




      https://www.ultraboardgames.com/love-letter/the-people.php



      If Prince Arnaud is used on someone holding the Princess, does that person lose due to discarding the Princess, or do they not apply its effect? Given that the wording of Prince Arnaud says "discards his or her hand" rather than "discards the card in his or her hand", does this count as discarding the Princess?







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          Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.




          If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.







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            The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:




            If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.



            When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.




            Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three are:



            • Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)

            • Using the Baron

            • Using the prince on a player with the princess





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              Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.




              If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.







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                Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.




                If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.







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                  Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.




                  If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.







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                  Yes as the card says you lose the game. It doesn't matter how the princess gets into the discard pile but when it does the person who was holding it loses.




                  If you discard the Princess-no matter how or why-she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are knocked out of the round.








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                      The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:




                      If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.



                      When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.




                      Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three are:



                      • Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)

                      • Using the Baron

                      • Using the prince on a player with the princess





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                        The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:




                        If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.



                        When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.




                        Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three are:



                        • Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)

                        • Using the Baron

                        • Using the prince on a player with the princess





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                          The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:




                          If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.



                          When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.




                          Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three are:



                          • Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)

                          • Using the Baron

                          • Using the prince on a player with the princess





                          share|improve this answer













                          The player does lose. The full rule book is explicit about this:




                          If you discard the Princess—no matter how or why—she has tossed your letter into the fire. You are immediately knocked out of the round. If the Princess was discarded by a card effect, any remaining effects of that card do not apply (you do not draw a card from the Prince, for example). Effects tied to being knocked out the round still apply (eg. Constable, Jester), however.



                          When you discard Prince Arnaud, choose one player still in the round (including yourself). That player discards his or her hand (but doesn’t apply its effect, unless it is the Princess, see page 8) and draws a new one.




                          Using the prince on a player with the princess is one of the main ways to eliminate a player during the round. The big three are:



                          • Using a guard (and either guessing correctly or having advance knowledge of their card from the King/Priest)

                          • Using the Baron

                          • Using the prince on a player with the princess






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