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Can you stand up from being prone using Skirmisher outside of your turn?



Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
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Using the Rogue Scout's Skirmisher feature, which states:




You can move up to half your speed as a reaction when an enemy ends its turn within 5 feet of you.




Additionally:




Being Prone, PHB pg 190/191



Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement
equal to half your speed. For example, if your speed is 30 feet, you
must spend 15 feet of movement to stand up.




And on a relevant topic, Does standing up from prone trigger the damage from Booming Blade?. General Consensus: No.



Can I spend this movement to stand up from being prone?



The concern here is that, while standing up from being Prone costs movement, is the movement still valid, considering that standing up from Prone is not considered "movement" for the sake of other effects that rely on actual movement/distance (like Booming Blade)?










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    Using the Rogue Scout's Skirmisher feature, which states:




    You can move up to half your speed as a reaction when an enemy ends its turn within 5 feet of you.




    Additionally:




    Being Prone, PHB pg 190/191



    Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement
    equal to half your speed. For example, if your speed is 30 feet, you
    must spend 15 feet of movement to stand up.




    And on a relevant topic, Does standing up from prone trigger the damage from Booming Blade?. General Consensus: No.



    Can I spend this movement to stand up from being prone?



    The concern here is that, while standing up from being Prone costs movement, is the movement still valid, considering that standing up from Prone is not considered "movement" for the sake of other effects that rely on actual movement/distance (like Booming Blade)?










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      $begingroup$


      Using the Rogue Scout's Skirmisher feature, which states:




      You can move up to half your speed as a reaction when an enemy ends its turn within 5 feet of you.




      Additionally:




      Being Prone, PHB pg 190/191



      Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement
      equal to half your speed. For example, if your speed is 30 feet, you
      must spend 15 feet of movement to stand up.




      And on a relevant topic, Does standing up from prone trigger the damage from Booming Blade?. General Consensus: No.



      Can I spend this movement to stand up from being prone?



      The concern here is that, while standing up from being Prone costs movement, is the movement still valid, considering that standing up from Prone is not considered "movement" for the sake of other effects that rely on actual movement/distance (like Booming Blade)?










      share|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      Using the Rogue Scout's Skirmisher feature, which states:




      You can move up to half your speed as a reaction when an enemy ends its turn within 5 feet of you.




      Additionally:




      Being Prone, PHB pg 190/191



      Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement
      equal to half your speed. For example, if your speed is 30 feet, you
      must spend 15 feet of movement to stand up.




      And on a relevant topic, Does standing up from prone trigger the damage from Booming Blade?. General Consensus: No.



      Can I spend this movement to stand up from being prone?



      The concern here is that, while standing up from being Prone costs movement, is the movement still valid, considering that standing up from Prone is not considered "movement" for the sake of other effects that rely on actual movement/distance (like Booming Blade)?







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          Arguably, the rogue may stand up



          The character is not literally "granted" a resource that is called movement but that is in fact the way the rules of movement talk about how it is used:




          However you're moving, you deduct the distance of each part of your move from your speed until it is used up or until you are done moving.




          So, in practice, movement is a resource that may be "deducted from" or "spent" and which can have "cost" penalties. Additionally, the Normal and Skirmisher movements are granted/refreshed using the same terminology:




          Normal movement rule: On your turn, you can move a distance up to your speed.



          Skirmisher movement rule: You can move up to half your speed as a reaction




          So if the two types of movement are obtained/granted using the same "you can move" phrasing and movement is talked about as a resource that can be spent independently of whatever physical space may be traversed (e.g. over difficult terrain), it stands to reason that the movement associated with the Skirmisher feat may be spent to stand up from being prone the same way a character can with normal movement.



          The selected answer for the related question about Booming Blade makes this same point. It is possible to use the movement resource for something other than directly moving (To wit, one "spends" 10 movement to move 5 physical feet through difficult terrain) and it is because of this difference that Booming Blade does not trigger in response to standing up.



          In short, if you subscribe to this interpretation, where the phrase "you can move" is functionally identical to "you are granted movement," then standing up is permitted in this situation.






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            Yes



            As you mentioned, to stand up:




            [you spend] an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




            The rules for prone movement (including standing up) are listed under Movement and Position in the Player's Handbook, right between moving through Difficult Terrain and Moving Around Other Creatures. In my interpretation, I see no reason to disqualify standing up from being a type of movement.



            For the Rogue's Skirmisher feature, since you can move up to half your speed, you can simply spend the whole of that movement allocation to stand up.






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              No



              The Skirmisher feature says:




              You can move up to half your speed as a reaction ...




              Standing up is not moving per the rules' definition, you just have to spend movement to do it.




              Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




              Since standing up is not moving, then you cannot use the Skirmisher ability to do so.






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                You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
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                @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
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                Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
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                The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
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                @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
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              $begingroup$

              Arguably, the rogue may stand up



              The character is not literally "granted" a resource that is called movement but that is in fact the way the rules of movement talk about how it is used:




              However you're moving, you deduct the distance of each part of your move from your speed until it is used up or until you are done moving.




              So, in practice, movement is a resource that may be "deducted from" or "spent" and which can have "cost" penalties. Additionally, the Normal and Skirmisher movements are granted/refreshed using the same terminology:




              Normal movement rule: On your turn, you can move a distance up to your speed.



              Skirmisher movement rule: You can move up to half your speed as a reaction




              So if the two types of movement are obtained/granted using the same "you can move" phrasing and movement is talked about as a resource that can be spent independently of whatever physical space may be traversed (e.g. over difficult terrain), it stands to reason that the movement associated with the Skirmisher feat may be spent to stand up from being prone the same way a character can with normal movement.



              The selected answer for the related question about Booming Blade makes this same point. It is possible to use the movement resource for something other than directly moving (To wit, one "spends" 10 movement to move 5 physical feet through difficult terrain) and it is because of this difference that Booming Blade does not trigger in response to standing up.



              In short, if you subscribe to this interpretation, where the phrase "you can move" is functionally identical to "you are granted movement," then standing up is permitted in this situation.






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                $begingroup$

                Arguably, the rogue may stand up



                The character is not literally "granted" a resource that is called movement but that is in fact the way the rules of movement talk about how it is used:




                However you're moving, you deduct the distance of each part of your move from your speed until it is used up or until you are done moving.




                So, in practice, movement is a resource that may be "deducted from" or "spent" and which can have "cost" penalties. Additionally, the Normal and Skirmisher movements are granted/refreshed using the same terminology:




                Normal movement rule: On your turn, you can move a distance up to your speed.



                Skirmisher movement rule: You can move up to half your speed as a reaction




                So if the two types of movement are obtained/granted using the same "you can move" phrasing and movement is talked about as a resource that can be spent independently of whatever physical space may be traversed (e.g. over difficult terrain), it stands to reason that the movement associated with the Skirmisher feat may be spent to stand up from being prone the same way a character can with normal movement.



                The selected answer for the related question about Booming Blade makes this same point. It is possible to use the movement resource for something other than directly moving (To wit, one "spends" 10 movement to move 5 physical feet through difficult terrain) and it is because of this difference that Booming Blade does not trigger in response to standing up.



                In short, if you subscribe to this interpretation, where the phrase "you can move" is functionally identical to "you are granted movement," then standing up is permitted in this situation.






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                  $begingroup$

                  Arguably, the rogue may stand up



                  The character is not literally "granted" a resource that is called movement but that is in fact the way the rules of movement talk about how it is used:




                  However you're moving, you deduct the distance of each part of your move from your speed until it is used up or until you are done moving.




                  So, in practice, movement is a resource that may be "deducted from" or "spent" and which can have "cost" penalties. Additionally, the Normal and Skirmisher movements are granted/refreshed using the same terminology:




                  Normal movement rule: On your turn, you can move a distance up to your speed.



                  Skirmisher movement rule: You can move up to half your speed as a reaction




                  So if the two types of movement are obtained/granted using the same "you can move" phrasing and movement is talked about as a resource that can be spent independently of whatever physical space may be traversed (e.g. over difficult terrain), it stands to reason that the movement associated with the Skirmisher feat may be spent to stand up from being prone the same way a character can with normal movement.



                  The selected answer for the related question about Booming Blade makes this same point. It is possible to use the movement resource for something other than directly moving (To wit, one "spends" 10 movement to move 5 physical feet through difficult terrain) and it is because of this difference that Booming Blade does not trigger in response to standing up.



                  In short, if you subscribe to this interpretation, where the phrase "you can move" is functionally identical to "you are granted movement," then standing up is permitted in this situation.






                  share|improve this answer











                  $endgroup$



                  Arguably, the rogue may stand up



                  The character is not literally "granted" a resource that is called movement but that is in fact the way the rules of movement talk about how it is used:




                  However you're moving, you deduct the distance of each part of your move from your speed until it is used up or until you are done moving.




                  So, in practice, movement is a resource that may be "deducted from" or "spent" and which can have "cost" penalties. Additionally, the Normal and Skirmisher movements are granted/refreshed using the same terminology:




                  Normal movement rule: On your turn, you can move a distance up to your speed.



                  Skirmisher movement rule: You can move up to half your speed as a reaction




                  So if the two types of movement are obtained/granted using the same "you can move" phrasing and movement is talked about as a resource that can be spent independently of whatever physical space may be traversed (e.g. over difficult terrain), it stands to reason that the movement associated with the Skirmisher feat may be spent to stand up from being prone the same way a character can with normal movement.



                  The selected answer for the related question about Booming Blade makes this same point. It is possible to use the movement resource for something other than directly moving (To wit, one "spends" 10 movement to move 5 physical feet through difficult terrain) and it is because of this difference that Booming Blade does not trigger in response to standing up.



                  In short, if you subscribe to this interpretation, where the phrase "you can move" is functionally identical to "you are granted movement," then standing up is permitted in this situation.







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                      Yes



                      As you mentioned, to stand up:




                      [you spend] an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                      The rules for prone movement (including standing up) are listed under Movement and Position in the Player's Handbook, right between moving through Difficult Terrain and Moving Around Other Creatures. In my interpretation, I see no reason to disqualify standing up from being a type of movement.



                      For the Rogue's Skirmisher feature, since you can move up to half your speed, you can simply spend the whole of that movement allocation to stand up.






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                        Yes



                        As you mentioned, to stand up:




                        [you spend] an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                        The rules for prone movement (including standing up) are listed under Movement and Position in the Player's Handbook, right between moving through Difficult Terrain and Moving Around Other Creatures. In my interpretation, I see no reason to disqualify standing up from being a type of movement.



                        For the Rogue's Skirmisher feature, since you can move up to half your speed, you can simply spend the whole of that movement allocation to stand up.






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                          Yes



                          As you mentioned, to stand up:




                          [you spend] an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                          The rules for prone movement (including standing up) are listed under Movement and Position in the Player's Handbook, right between moving through Difficult Terrain and Moving Around Other Creatures. In my interpretation, I see no reason to disqualify standing up from being a type of movement.



                          For the Rogue's Skirmisher feature, since you can move up to half your speed, you can simply spend the whole of that movement allocation to stand up.






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                          Yes



                          As you mentioned, to stand up:




                          [you spend] an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                          The rules for prone movement (including standing up) are listed under Movement and Position in the Player's Handbook, right between moving through Difficult Terrain and Moving Around Other Creatures. In my interpretation, I see no reason to disqualify standing up from being a type of movement.



                          For the Rogue's Skirmisher feature, since you can move up to half your speed, you can simply spend the whole of that movement allocation to stand up.







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                              No



                              The Skirmisher feature says:




                              You can move up to half your speed as a reaction ...




                              Standing up is not moving per the rules' definition, you just have to spend movement to do it.




                              Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                              Since standing up is not moving, then you cannot use the Skirmisher ability to do so.






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                              • 1




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                                You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                                $endgroup$
                                – David Coffron
                                3 hours ago






                              • 2




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                                @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
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                                2 hours ago






                              • 2




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                                Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
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                                – Pink Sweetener
                                2 hours ago






                              • 1




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                                The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                                $endgroup$
                                – V2Blast
                                1 hour ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Rubiksmoose
                                1 hour ago















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                              No



                              The Skirmisher feature says:




                              You can move up to half your speed as a reaction ...




                              Standing up is not moving per the rules' definition, you just have to spend movement to do it.




                              Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                              Since standing up is not moving, then you cannot use the Skirmisher ability to do so.






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                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                                $endgroup$
                                – David Coffron
                                3 hours ago






                              • 2




                                $begingroup$
                                @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
                                $endgroup$
                                – findusl
                                2 hours ago






                              • 2




                                $begingroup$
                                Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Pink Sweetener
                                2 hours ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                                $endgroup$
                                – V2Blast
                                1 hour ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Rubiksmoose
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                              No



                              The Skirmisher feature says:




                              You can move up to half your speed as a reaction ...




                              Standing up is not moving per the rules' definition, you just have to spend movement to do it.




                              Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                              Since standing up is not moving, then you cannot use the Skirmisher ability to do so.






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                              No



                              The Skirmisher feature says:




                              You can move up to half your speed as a reaction ...




                              Standing up is not moving per the rules' definition, you just have to spend movement to do it.




                              Standing up takes more effort; doing so costs an amount of movement equal to half your speed.




                              Since standing up is not moving, then you cannot use the Skirmisher ability to do so.







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                              62.8k10305462







                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                                $endgroup$
                                – David Coffron
                                3 hours ago






                              • 2




                                $begingroup$
                                @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
                                $endgroup$
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                                Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Pink Sweetener
                                2 hours ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                                $endgroup$
                                – V2Blast
                                1 hour ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Rubiksmoose
                                1 hour ago












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                                You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                                $endgroup$
                                – David Coffron
                                3 hours ago






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                                $begingroup$
                                @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
                                $endgroup$
                                – findusl
                                2 hours ago






                              • 2




                                $begingroup$
                                Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Pink Sweetener
                                2 hours ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                                $endgroup$
                                – V2Blast
                                1 hour ago






                              • 1




                                $begingroup$
                                @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                                $endgroup$
                                – Rubiksmoose
                                1 hour ago







                              1




                              1




                              $begingroup$
                              You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                              $endgroup$
                              – David Coffron
                              3 hours ago




                              $begingroup$
                              You may want to add that crawling is a movement option available to prone characters
                              $endgroup$
                              – David Coffron
                              3 hours ago




                              2




                              2




                              $begingroup$
                              @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
                              $endgroup$
                              – findusl
                              2 hours ago




                              $begingroup$
                              @Rubiksmoose if I understand your interpretation of the rules correctly, standing up is not moving. So when you do it regularly on your turn, what is it then? The phb 189 states as part of your turn you can do an action and move. Bonus actions are under bonus actions. And then there are other activities that "require neither your action nor your move". Also there are reactions. Your interpretation of standing up is none of these.
                              $endgroup$
                              – findusl
                              2 hours ago




                              2




                              2




                              $begingroup$
                              Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
                              $endgroup$
                              – Pink Sweetener
                              2 hours ago




                              $begingroup$
                              Is there an ability that uses an action, but is not an action? Or an ability that uses a bonus action, but is not a bonus action? How about for interactions or reactions? If yes, this would help support your argument that standing up uses movement but is not a movement. At the moment, I can't think of any examples, so your take feels a bit anomalous.
                              $endgroup$
                              – Pink Sweetener
                              2 hours ago




                              1




                              1




                              $begingroup$
                              The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                              $endgroup$
                              – V2Blast
                              1 hour ago




                              $begingroup$
                              The argument, in short (to my understanding): "movement" is a thing you can do on your turn, based on your speed. Other features may use your reaction (or not) to let you move a certain distance, which may be fixed or dependent on your speed somehow, outside your turn, but you don't have a "pool" of movement to spend outside your turn.
                              $endgroup$
                              – V2Blast
                              1 hour ago




                              1




                              1




                              $begingroup$
                              @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                              $endgroup$
                              – Rubiksmoose
                              1 hour ago




                              $begingroup$
                              @Zourin I appreciate your view on the matter but please save comments only for recommending changes and not just arguing. If you want to make your own point, your are welcome to write your own answer.
                              $endgroup$
                              – Rubiksmoose
                              1 hour ago

















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