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Is a 5 watt UHF/VHF handheld considered QRP?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?Are QRP transceivers only meant for CW communication?










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QRP doesn't have a strict definition, though 5W or less seems to be a common threshold. So would "QRP operation" usually be considered to include UHF/VHF handhelds?










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    My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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QRP doesn't have a strict definition, though 5W or less seems to be a common threshold. So would "QRP operation" usually be considered to include UHF/VHF handhelds?










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    My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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    My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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    My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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My personal opinion (therefore presented as a comment rather than an answer) is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.
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My personal opinion is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.






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    My understanding of "QRP" is simply the use of as little power as possible to make contacts over interesting distances. There isn't a specific power level that equates to "QRP" - it is more a function of what's less than expected.



    1W on 2m/UHF for 10 mile simplex (or local/regional repeater communications) isn't QRP. 0.1W on 2m/UHF for 250 mile simplex would fit my definition of QRP.



    It is a gray area, for sure. Like the Judge said, "I know it when I see it."






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    While most 2m and UHF hand held units are limited to 5W, not all are (I have one that offers a choice of 1W, 4W, or 8W) -- and this is done mainly to extend battery life with a radio that's normally only useful for the distance to the nearest repeater.



    However, 2m/UHF mobile units mounted in vehicles routinely emit 50W or more (I'm looking at a Yaesu for my car that offers 5W, 30W, or 65W, for under $150), and base units can readily emit 100W, or with an amplifier up to 1500W legal limit.



    Hence, even though 5W is common for hand held VHF/UHF units, I still consider it QRP. A hand held could easily be built to radiate ten times this power -- though battery life would be compromised.






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          My personal opinion is that QRP means using significantly less power than is customary for a given mode of operation. In that sense, a 5W HT would not be QRP because pretty much everybody else with an HT is also operating at (or near) 5W. 0.5W might be considered QRP in this case.







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              My understanding of "QRP" is simply the use of as little power as possible to make contacts over interesting distances. There isn't a specific power level that equates to "QRP" - it is more a function of what's less than expected.



              1W on 2m/UHF for 10 mile simplex (or local/regional repeater communications) isn't QRP. 0.1W on 2m/UHF for 250 mile simplex would fit my definition of QRP.



              It is a gray area, for sure. Like the Judge said, "I know it when I see it."






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                Hello Peter, and welcome to this site! Since it is customary to include statements such as "-Peter (a Ham for 28 years)" in your profile rather than in questions or answers, I have deleted that and edited your profile to include your name. From reading it, I see that you and I have a lot in common. We look forward to your further participation here. :-)
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              My understanding of "QRP" is simply the use of as little power as possible to make contacts over interesting distances. There isn't a specific power level that equates to "QRP" - it is more a function of what's less than expected.



              1W on 2m/UHF for 10 mile simplex (or local/regional repeater communications) isn't QRP. 0.1W on 2m/UHF for 250 mile simplex would fit my definition of QRP.



              It is a gray area, for sure. Like the Judge said, "I know it when I see it."






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              My understanding of "QRP" is simply the use of as little power as possible to make contacts over interesting distances. There isn't a specific power level that equates to "QRP" - it is more a function of what's less than expected.



              1W on 2m/UHF for 10 mile simplex (or local/regional repeater communications) isn't QRP. 0.1W on 2m/UHF for 250 mile simplex would fit my definition of QRP.



              It is a gray area, for sure. Like the Judge said, "I know it when I see it."






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              My understanding of "QRP" is simply the use of as little power as possible to make contacts over interesting distances. There isn't a specific power level that equates to "QRP" - it is more a function of what's less than expected.



              1W on 2m/UHF for 10 mile simplex (or local/regional repeater communications) isn't QRP. 0.1W on 2m/UHF for 250 mile simplex would fit my definition of QRP.



              It is a gray area, for sure. Like the Judge said, "I know it when I see it."







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              • $begingroup$
                Hello Peter, and welcome to this site! Since it is customary to include statements such as "-Peter (a Ham for 28 years)" in your profile rather than in questions or answers, I have deleted that and edited your profile to include your name. From reading it, I see that you and I have a lot in common. We look forward to your further participation here. :-)
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                Hello Peter, and welcome to this site! Since it is customary to include statements such as "-Peter (a Ham for 28 years)" in your profile rather than in questions or answers, I have deleted that and edited your profile to include your name. From reading it, I see that you and I have a lot in common. We look forward to your further participation here. :-)
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              $begingroup$
              Hello Peter, and welcome to this site! Since it is customary to include statements such as "-Peter (a Ham for 28 years)" in your profile rather than in questions or answers, I have deleted that and edited your profile to include your name. From reading it, I see that you and I have a lot in common. We look forward to your further participation here. :-)
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              – Mike Waters
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              $begingroup$
              Hello Peter, and welcome to this site! Since it is customary to include statements such as "-Peter (a Ham for 28 years)" in your profile rather than in questions or answers, I have deleted that and edited your profile to include your name. From reading it, I see that you and I have a lot in common. We look forward to your further participation here. :-)
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              While most 2m and UHF hand held units are limited to 5W, not all are (I have one that offers a choice of 1W, 4W, or 8W) -- and this is done mainly to extend battery life with a radio that's normally only useful for the distance to the nearest repeater.



              However, 2m/UHF mobile units mounted in vehicles routinely emit 50W or more (I'm looking at a Yaesu for my car that offers 5W, 30W, or 65W, for under $150), and base units can readily emit 100W, or with an amplifier up to 1500W legal limit.



              Hence, even though 5W is common for hand held VHF/UHF units, I still consider it QRP. A hand held could easily be built to radiate ten times this power -- though battery life would be compromised.






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                While most 2m and UHF hand held units are limited to 5W, not all are (I have one that offers a choice of 1W, 4W, or 8W) -- and this is done mainly to extend battery life with a radio that's normally only useful for the distance to the nearest repeater.



                However, 2m/UHF mobile units mounted in vehicles routinely emit 50W or more (I'm looking at a Yaesu for my car that offers 5W, 30W, or 65W, for under $150), and base units can readily emit 100W, or with an amplifier up to 1500W legal limit.



                Hence, even though 5W is common for hand held VHF/UHF units, I still consider it QRP. A hand held could easily be built to radiate ten times this power -- though battery life would be compromised.






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                  While most 2m and UHF hand held units are limited to 5W, not all are (I have one that offers a choice of 1W, 4W, or 8W) -- and this is done mainly to extend battery life with a radio that's normally only useful for the distance to the nearest repeater.



                  However, 2m/UHF mobile units mounted in vehicles routinely emit 50W or more (I'm looking at a Yaesu for my car that offers 5W, 30W, or 65W, for under $150), and base units can readily emit 100W, or with an amplifier up to 1500W legal limit.



                  Hence, even though 5W is common for hand held VHF/UHF units, I still consider it QRP. A hand held could easily be built to radiate ten times this power -- though battery life would be compromised.






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                  While most 2m and UHF hand held units are limited to 5W, not all are (I have one that offers a choice of 1W, 4W, or 8W) -- and this is done mainly to extend battery life with a radio that's normally only useful for the distance to the nearest repeater.



                  However, 2m/UHF mobile units mounted in vehicles routinely emit 50W or more (I'm looking at a Yaesu for my car that offers 5W, 30W, or 65W, for under $150), and base units can readily emit 100W, or with an amplifier up to 1500W legal limit.



                  Hence, even though 5W is common for hand held VHF/UHF units, I still consider it QRP. A hand held could easily be built to radiate ten times this power -- though battery life would be compromised.







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