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          I've always heard it described as free word order. That is, the word order is "free" in that it can be pushed and pulled and twisted every which way while still being understandable.






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          • Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

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          If Latin prose had an "extremely loose word order", which is (generally) not the case, the appropriate linguistic term involved would be "non-configurationality" (e.g., cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-configurational_language ). However, rather than being vaguely classified as a free word order language or as a non-configurational language, Latin has often been referred to in the recent Latin linguistics literature as a "discourse configurational language". Latin word order is strongly driven by so-called "information structure" (involving notions like "old information", "new information", "focus", "emphasis", etc).



          NB: the key word/expression in Mentifex's question is "seemingly random", whereas the key word in Draconis's answer is "understandable". The former expression is to be related to the fact that, despite appearances, Latin is not a free word order language (unlike Latin, the Australian language Warlpiri, for example, is a non-configurational language), whereas the latter expression ("understandable") is to be related to the fact that word order in Latin prose is clearly determined by pragmatics (stricto sensu, by information structure. For a very recent reference on this topic, please take a look at https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pragmatics-for-latin-9780190939472?cc=es&lang=en&# ).






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            I've always heard it described as free word order. That is, the word order is "free" in that it can be pushed and pulled and twisted every which way while still being understandable.






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            • Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

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            I've always heard it described as free word order. That is, the word order is "free" in that it can be pushed and pulled and twisted every which way while still being understandable.






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            • Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

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            I've always heard it described as free word order. That is, the word order is "free" in that it can be pushed and pulled and twisted every which way while still being understandable.






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            • Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

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            • Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

              – Mitomino
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              @Mitomino Mind adding that quote to your answer? It's a good source and deserves better than a comment.

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            Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

            – Mitomino
            1 hour ago






            Right, that's the traditional answer. To put it in Marouzeau's (1949) traditional words: ‘l’ordre des mots en latin est libre, il n’est pas indifférent" (‘Word order in Latin is free, it is not arbitrary'). Marouzeau, J. (1949). L'Ordre des mots dans la phrase latine. III. Les Articulations de l'énoncé. Paris: Belles Lettres.

            – Mitomino
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            @Mitomino Mind adding that quote to your answer? It's a good source and deserves better than a comment.

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            If Latin prose had an "extremely loose word order", which is (generally) not the case, the appropriate linguistic term involved would be "non-configurationality" (e.g., cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-configurational_language ). However, rather than being vaguely classified as a free word order language or as a non-configurational language, Latin has often been referred to in the recent Latin linguistics literature as a "discourse configurational language". Latin word order is strongly driven by so-called "information structure" (involving notions like "old information", "new information", "focus", "emphasis", etc).



            NB: the key word/expression in Mentifex's question is "seemingly random", whereas the key word in Draconis's answer is "understandable". The former expression is to be related to the fact that, despite appearances, Latin is not a free word order language (unlike Latin, the Australian language Warlpiri, for example, is a non-configurational language), whereas the latter expression ("understandable") is to be related to the fact that word order in Latin prose is clearly determined by pragmatics (stricto sensu, by information structure. For a very recent reference on this topic, please take a look at https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pragmatics-for-latin-9780190939472?cc=es&lang=en&# ).






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              If Latin prose had an "extremely loose word order", which is (generally) not the case, the appropriate linguistic term involved would be "non-configurationality" (e.g., cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-configurational_language ). However, rather than being vaguely classified as a free word order language or as a non-configurational language, Latin has often been referred to in the recent Latin linguistics literature as a "discourse configurational language". Latin word order is strongly driven by so-called "information structure" (involving notions like "old information", "new information", "focus", "emphasis", etc).



              NB: the key word/expression in Mentifex's question is "seemingly random", whereas the key word in Draconis's answer is "understandable". The former expression is to be related to the fact that, despite appearances, Latin is not a free word order language (unlike Latin, the Australian language Warlpiri, for example, is a non-configurational language), whereas the latter expression ("understandable") is to be related to the fact that word order in Latin prose is clearly determined by pragmatics (stricto sensu, by information structure. For a very recent reference on this topic, please take a look at https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pragmatics-for-latin-9780190939472?cc=es&lang=en&# ).






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                If Latin prose had an "extremely loose word order", which is (generally) not the case, the appropriate linguistic term involved would be "non-configurationality" (e.g., cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-configurational_language ). However, rather than being vaguely classified as a free word order language or as a non-configurational language, Latin has often been referred to in the recent Latin linguistics literature as a "discourse configurational language". Latin word order is strongly driven by so-called "information structure" (involving notions like "old information", "new information", "focus", "emphasis", etc).



                NB: the key word/expression in Mentifex's question is "seemingly random", whereas the key word in Draconis's answer is "understandable". The former expression is to be related to the fact that, despite appearances, Latin is not a free word order language (unlike Latin, the Australian language Warlpiri, for example, is a non-configurational language), whereas the latter expression ("understandable") is to be related to the fact that word order in Latin prose is clearly determined by pragmatics (stricto sensu, by information structure. For a very recent reference on this topic, please take a look at https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pragmatics-for-latin-9780190939472?cc=es&lang=en&# ).






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                If Latin prose had an "extremely loose word order", which is (generally) not the case, the appropriate linguistic term involved would be "non-configurationality" (e.g., cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-configurational_language ). However, rather than being vaguely classified as a free word order language or as a non-configurational language, Latin has often been referred to in the recent Latin linguistics literature as a "discourse configurational language". Latin word order is strongly driven by so-called "information structure" (involving notions like "old information", "new information", "focus", "emphasis", etc).



                NB: the key word/expression in Mentifex's question is "seemingly random", whereas the key word in Draconis's answer is "understandable". The former expression is to be related to the fact that, despite appearances, Latin is not a free word order language (unlike Latin, the Australian language Warlpiri, for example, is a non-configurational language), whereas the latter expression ("understandable") is to be related to the fact that word order in Latin prose is clearly determined by pragmatics (stricto sensu, by information structure. For a very recent reference on this topic, please take a look at https://global.oup.com/academic/product/pragmatics-for-latin-9780190939472?cc=es&lang=en&# ).







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