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If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need
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Is the argument valid?




No.



"I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".



This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".



See Denying the antecedent.






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    Wikipedia describes validity as follows:




    In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.




    The argument we want to test for validity is the following:




    If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.




    This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:



    • R: "Interest rates go down."

    • B: "I will buy a house."

    • L: "I will need a loan."

    If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.



    We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:




    ((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)




    This is the result I get:



    enter image description here



    Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.




    Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/



    Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195






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      Is the argument valid?




      No.



      "I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".



      This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".



      See Denying the antecedent.






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        Is the argument valid?




        No.



        "I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".



        This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".



        See Denying the antecedent.






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          Is the argument valid?




          No.



          "I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".



          This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".



          See Denying the antecedent.






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          Is the argument valid?




          No.



          "I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house" is the same as "If I do not buy a house, then I will not need a loan".



          This is not implied by "If I buy a house, I will need a loan".



          See Denying the antecedent.







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              Wikipedia describes validity as follows:




              In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.




              The argument we want to test for validity is the following:




              If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.




              This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:



              • R: "Interest rates go down."

              • B: "I will buy a house."

              • L: "I will need a loan."

              If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.



              We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:




              ((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)




              This is the result I get:



              enter image description here



              Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.




              Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/



              Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195






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                Wikipedia describes validity as follows:




                In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.




                The argument we want to test for validity is the following:




                If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.




                This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:



                • R: "Interest rates go down."

                • B: "I will buy a house."

                • L: "I will need a loan."

                If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.



                We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:




                ((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)




                This is the result I get:



                enter image description here



                Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.




                Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/



                Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195






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                  Wikipedia describes validity as follows:




                  In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.




                  The argument we want to test for validity is the following:




                  If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.




                  This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:



                  • R: "Interest rates go down."

                  • B: "I will buy a house."

                  • L: "I will need a loan."

                  If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.



                  We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:




                  ((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)




                  This is the result I get:



                  enter image description here



                  Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.




                  Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/



                  Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195






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                  Wikipedia describes validity as follows:




                  In logic, an argument is valid if and only if it takes a form that makes it impossible for the premises to be true and the conclusion nevertheless to be false.




                  The argument we want to test for validity is the following:




                  If interest rates go down, then I will buy a house. If I buy a house, I will need a loan. Therefore, I will not need a loan if I do not buy a house.




                  This can be broken up into propositions with this symbolization key:



                  • R: "Interest rates go down."

                  • B: "I will buy a house."

                  • L: "I will need a loan."

                  If R then B. If B then L. Therefore, if not B then not L.



                  We could place the following into a truth table generator. For the truth table generator I am using I would enter the following string:




                  ((R=>B)&&(B=>L))=>(~B=>~L)




                  This is the result I get:



                  enter image description here



                  Note the "F" in the third line of the table. This is a line where the premises are true but the conclusion false. Therefore the argument is invalid.




                  Stanford Truth Table Tool http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs103/tools/truth-table-tool/



                  Wikipedia contributors. (2019, March 28). Validity (logic). In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 18:05, April 15, 2019, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Validity_(logic)&oldid=889899195







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