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Is there any substitute for vital wheat gluten?



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There's pizza dough recipe which calls for vital wheat gluten and I can't find it anywhere in India. Is there any substitute for it? Can I use seitan as a substitute?










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    I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:27











  • none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

    – Megh Gandhi
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:57







  • 1





    What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:59






  • 1





    And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:02






  • 2





    Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:05

















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There's pizza dough recipe which calls for vital wheat gluten and I can't find it anywhere in India. Is there any substitute for it? Can I use seitan as a substitute?










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:27











  • none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

    – Megh Gandhi
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:57







  • 1





    What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:59






  • 1





    And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:02






  • 2





    Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:05













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There's pizza dough recipe which calls for vital wheat gluten and I can't find it anywhere in India. Is there any substitute for it? Can I use seitan as a substitute?










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    I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:27











  • none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

    – Megh Gandhi
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:57







  • 1





    What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:59






  • 1





    And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:02






  • 2





    Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:05












  • 1





    I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:27











  • none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

    – Megh Gandhi
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:57







  • 1





    What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 7:59






  • 1





    And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:02






  • 2





    Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

    – Catija
    Mar 7 '15 at 8:05







1




1





I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 7:27





I have no experience but I found a couple of links that might help: ehow.com/list_6533668_vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes.html livestrong.com/article/…

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 7:27













none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

– Megh Gandhi
Mar 7 '15 at 7:57






none of the substitutes are available in India as shown in the links...

– Megh Gandhi
Mar 7 '15 at 7:57





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1





What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 7:59





What type of flour does the recipe call for? One place said if it calls for AP flour, replace with bread flour, as it has more gluten.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 7:59




1




1





And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 8:02





And as a last resort, could you just find a different recipe? There are hundreds of recipes for pizza dough out there.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 8:02




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2





Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 8:05





Commercial pizza doughs are usually more complicated than traditional ones. They are much more likely to use unusual chemicals.

– Catija
Mar 7 '15 at 8:05










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No, there is no substitute for gluten, at all.



The gluten + soft flour combination is itself a substitute for bread flour, so if you can get bread flour, as Catija suggested, use it. If you can't, you need another recipe. Especially if your goal is to "not make it complicated", don't use substitutes. Substitutes are always complicated. The easy thing is to follow a recipe without making changes, and there are thousands of good recipes, so if you can't make one, choosing a different one is easier than looking for substitutes.



Seitan is not a substitute for gluten, even if you grind it up. In seitan, the gluten is already set, but you want it "raw" for making dough.






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  • Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

    – Derpy
    Mar 8 '15 at 2:34






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    Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

    – Ecnerwal
    Mar 16 '15 at 3:19











  • In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

    – rackandboneman
    May 4 '15 at 21:52


















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General purpose flour contains about the lowest amount of protein where you bring out the gluten through the process of keading. I start with a small amount of flour mix and add water slowly until it flows like pancake batter. Whip this quickly for several minutes to bring out the gluten and form long stretchy bands within the mix, then add small quantities at a time the remaining flour mix. Resting the dough also helps form the gluten.



Semolina flour contains a good quantity of protein, is good tasting, and firm. A combination of semolina and general purpose flour will provide the protein/gluten needed.






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  • Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

    – Jay
    Oct 2 '15 at 15:10


















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Try Xanthan Gum, but you will need to play with the quantity. 1/2 to 1 tsp should be good, depending on how thick you like your pizza crust. My friend has Celiac, and I find this works well in place of Vital Wheat Gluten.






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    This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

    – rumtscho
    Nov 8 '15 at 14:40


















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Yes, there ARE substitutes for vital wheat gluten. The results may vary, but it is totally doable.



https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes-11667.html





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    No, there is no substitute for gluten, at all.



    The gluten + soft flour combination is itself a substitute for bread flour, so if you can get bread flour, as Catija suggested, use it. If you can't, you need another recipe. Especially if your goal is to "not make it complicated", don't use substitutes. Substitutes are always complicated. The easy thing is to follow a recipe without making changes, and there are thousands of good recipes, so if you can't make one, choosing a different one is easier than looking for substitutes.



    Seitan is not a substitute for gluten, even if you grind it up. In seitan, the gluten is already set, but you want it "raw" for making dough.






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    • Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

      – Derpy
      Mar 8 '15 at 2:34






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      Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

      – Ecnerwal
      Mar 16 '15 at 3:19











    • In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

      – rackandboneman
      May 4 '15 at 21:52















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    No, there is no substitute for gluten, at all.



    The gluten + soft flour combination is itself a substitute for bread flour, so if you can get bread flour, as Catija suggested, use it. If you can't, you need another recipe. Especially if your goal is to "not make it complicated", don't use substitutes. Substitutes are always complicated. The easy thing is to follow a recipe without making changes, and there are thousands of good recipes, so if you can't make one, choosing a different one is easier than looking for substitutes.



    Seitan is not a substitute for gluten, even if you grind it up. In seitan, the gluten is already set, but you want it "raw" for making dough.






    share|improve this answer























    • Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

      – Derpy
      Mar 8 '15 at 2:34






    • 5





      Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

      – Ecnerwal
      Mar 16 '15 at 3:19











    • In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

      – rackandboneman
      May 4 '15 at 21:52













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    No, there is no substitute for gluten, at all.



    The gluten + soft flour combination is itself a substitute for bread flour, so if you can get bread flour, as Catija suggested, use it. If you can't, you need another recipe. Especially if your goal is to "not make it complicated", don't use substitutes. Substitutes are always complicated. The easy thing is to follow a recipe without making changes, and there are thousands of good recipes, so if you can't make one, choosing a different one is easier than looking for substitutes.



    Seitan is not a substitute for gluten, even if you grind it up. In seitan, the gluten is already set, but you want it "raw" for making dough.






    share|improve this answer













    No, there is no substitute for gluten, at all.



    The gluten + soft flour combination is itself a substitute for bread flour, so if you can get bread flour, as Catija suggested, use it. If you can't, you need another recipe. Especially if your goal is to "not make it complicated", don't use substitutes. Substitutes are always complicated. The easy thing is to follow a recipe without making changes, and there are thousands of good recipes, so if you can't make one, choosing a different one is easier than looking for substitutes.



    Seitan is not a substitute for gluten, even if you grind it up. In seitan, the gluten is already set, but you want it "raw" for making dough.







    share|improve this answer












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    • Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

      – Derpy
      Mar 8 '15 at 2:34






    • 5





      Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

      – Ecnerwal
      Mar 16 '15 at 3:19











    • In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

      – rackandboneman
      May 4 '15 at 21:52

















    • Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

      – Derpy
      Mar 8 '15 at 2:34






    • 5





      Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

      – Ecnerwal
      Mar 16 '15 at 3:19











    • In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

      – rackandboneman
      May 4 '15 at 21:52
















    Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

    – Derpy
    Mar 8 '15 at 2:34





    Does anyone else find it ironic that the zenith of vegan meat substitutes is basically pure gluten? Anyhow, I would have answered in a similar fashion.

    – Derpy
    Mar 8 '15 at 2:34




    5




    5





    Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

    – Ecnerwal
    Mar 16 '15 at 3:19





    Not in the least. What is absurd is the number of people without Celiac who avoid gluten. Celiac is a real pain I wouldn't wish on anyone; avoiding gluten when you don't have it is a very strange choice.

    – Ecnerwal
    Mar 16 '15 at 3:19













    In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

    – rackandboneman
    May 4 '15 at 21:52





    In some countries, products like "Seitan Fix" are sold which are pure powdered wheat gluten... and the original poster might be referring to such a product.

    – rackandboneman
    May 4 '15 at 21:52













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    General purpose flour contains about the lowest amount of protein where you bring out the gluten through the process of keading. I start with a small amount of flour mix and add water slowly until it flows like pancake batter. Whip this quickly for several minutes to bring out the gluten and form long stretchy bands within the mix, then add small quantities at a time the remaining flour mix. Resting the dough also helps form the gluten.



    Semolina flour contains a good quantity of protein, is good tasting, and firm. A combination of semolina and general purpose flour will provide the protein/gluten needed.






    share|improve this answer























    • Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

      – Jay
      Oct 2 '15 at 15:10















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    General purpose flour contains about the lowest amount of protein where you bring out the gluten through the process of keading. I start with a small amount of flour mix and add water slowly until it flows like pancake batter. Whip this quickly for several minutes to bring out the gluten and form long stretchy bands within the mix, then add small quantities at a time the remaining flour mix. Resting the dough also helps form the gluten.



    Semolina flour contains a good quantity of protein, is good tasting, and firm. A combination of semolina and general purpose flour will provide the protein/gluten needed.






    share|improve this answer























    • Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

      – Jay
      Oct 2 '15 at 15:10













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    General purpose flour contains about the lowest amount of protein where you bring out the gluten through the process of keading. I start with a small amount of flour mix and add water slowly until it flows like pancake batter. Whip this quickly for several minutes to bring out the gluten and form long stretchy bands within the mix, then add small quantities at a time the remaining flour mix. Resting the dough also helps form the gluten.



    Semolina flour contains a good quantity of protein, is good tasting, and firm. A combination of semolina and general purpose flour will provide the protein/gluten needed.






    share|improve this answer













    General purpose flour contains about the lowest amount of protein where you bring out the gluten through the process of keading. I start with a small amount of flour mix and add water slowly until it flows like pancake batter. Whip this quickly for several minutes to bring out the gluten and form long stretchy bands within the mix, then add small quantities at a time the remaining flour mix. Resting the dough also helps form the gluten.



    Semolina flour contains a good quantity of protein, is good tasting, and firm. A combination of semolina and general purpose flour will provide the protein/gluten needed.







    share|improve this answer












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    • Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

      – Jay
      Oct 2 '15 at 15:10

















    • Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

      – Jay
      Oct 2 '15 at 15:10
















    Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

    – Jay
    Oct 2 '15 at 15:10





    Are you refering to "All-Purpose" flour?

    – Jay
    Oct 2 '15 at 15:10











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    Try Xanthan Gum, but you will need to play with the quantity. 1/2 to 1 tsp should be good, depending on how thick you like your pizza crust. My friend has Celiac, and I find this works well in place of Vital Wheat Gluten.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 2





      This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

      – rumtscho
      Nov 8 '15 at 14:40















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    Try Xanthan Gum, but you will need to play with the quantity. 1/2 to 1 tsp should be good, depending on how thick you like your pizza crust. My friend has Celiac, and I find this works well in place of Vital Wheat Gluten.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 2





      This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

      – rumtscho
      Nov 8 '15 at 14:40













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    Try Xanthan Gum, but you will need to play with the quantity. 1/2 to 1 tsp should be good, depending on how thick you like your pizza crust. My friend has Celiac, and I find this works well in place of Vital Wheat Gluten.






    share|improve this answer













    Try Xanthan Gum, but you will need to play with the quantity. 1/2 to 1 tsp should be good, depending on how thick you like your pizza crust. My friend has Celiac, and I find this works well in place of Vital Wheat Gluten.







    share|improve this answer












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      This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

      – rumtscho
      Nov 8 '15 at 14:40












    • 2





      This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

      – rumtscho
      Nov 8 '15 at 14:40







    2




    2





    This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

    – rumtscho
    Nov 8 '15 at 14:40





    This makes no sense. Xanthan gum is used to create a bread in gluten-free baking, but gives worse results than gluten in terms of texture. The OP is using a recipe which recommends adding vital wheat gluten to the dough, so he's definitely not baking gluten-free. And he is in a place where it's hard to get any additives. So why would he bother with xanthan?

    – rumtscho
    Nov 8 '15 at 14:40











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    Yes, there ARE substitutes for vital wheat gluten. The results may vary, but it is totally doable.



    https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/vital-wheat-gluten-substitutes-11667.html





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