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Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 23:30 UTC (7:30pm US/Eastern)A related rate questionFilling a conical tankPuzzled in unit stuff .. please helpTwo full 48-gallon tanks begin draining at t = 0.Related Rates Galore!Related Rate Question: Water is leaking out of an inverted conical tank at a rate of 9,500 cm3/minRelated Rates Conical Water Tank find rate of change of the water depthRates of change question involving water leaking out of a hemispherical tankGetting the rate of drain from a tankWater tank question
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I was told that I have a cylindrical water tank $10$ ft tall that can store $5000 $ ft$^3$ of water, and that the water drains from the bottom of the tank at a rate proportional to the instantaneous water level. After $6$ hours, half of the tank has drained out from the bottom. If the drain is opened and water is added to the tank at a constant rate of $100$ $fracft^3hr$, at what height above the drain will the elevation remain constant?
My attempt:
We are given that $$fracdVdt=kh$$ where $fracdVdt$ is the rate at which water leaves the tank, $V$ is the total change in water that has left the tank, and $h$ is the water's height above the drain.
If the elevation must remain constant in the tank, then I am merely finding the height in which the water that enters the tank equals to the water that leaves the tank, and therefore $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$.
To find $k$, I must do separation of variables and integrate both sides, so: $$intdV=intkhdt$$ $$V=kht+C$$
I know that $C=0$ because at $t=0$ hr, no water has left the tank ($V=0$), and at $t=6$ hr, $V=2500$ ft$^3$ and $h=5$ ft, since half the tank has drained out.
Solving for $k$: $$2500=k(5)(6)+0$$ $$k=frac2503$$
And solving for $h$ when $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$:$$100=frac2503h$$ $$h=1.2ft$$
However, the answer is actually about $1.73ft$. Where is my mistake?
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I was told that I have a cylindrical water tank $10$ ft tall that can store $5000 $ ft$^3$ of water, and that the water drains from the bottom of the tank at a rate proportional to the instantaneous water level. After $6$ hours, half of the tank has drained out from the bottom. If the drain is opened and water is added to the tank at a constant rate of $100$ $fracft^3hr$, at what height above the drain will the elevation remain constant?
My attempt:
We are given that $$fracdVdt=kh$$ where $fracdVdt$ is the rate at which water leaves the tank, $V$ is the total change in water that has left the tank, and $h$ is the water's height above the drain.
If the elevation must remain constant in the tank, then I am merely finding the height in which the water that enters the tank equals to the water that leaves the tank, and therefore $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$.
To find $k$, I must do separation of variables and integrate both sides, so: $$intdV=intkhdt$$ $$V=kht+C$$
I know that $C=0$ because at $t=0$ hr, no water has left the tank ($V=0$), and at $t=6$ hr, $V=2500$ ft$^3$ and $h=5$ ft, since half the tank has drained out.
Solving for $k$: $$2500=k(5)(6)+0$$ $$k=frac2503$$
And solving for $h$ when $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$:$$100=frac2503h$$ $$h=1.2ft$$
However, the answer is actually about $1.73ft$. Where is my mistake?
calculus
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I was told that I have a cylindrical water tank $10$ ft tall that can store $5000 $ ft$^3$ of water, and that the water drains from the bottom of the tank at a rate proportional to the instantaneous water level. After $6$ hours, half of the tank has drained out from the bottom. If the drain is opened and water is added to the tank at a constant rate of $100$ $fracft^3hr$, at what height above the drain will the elevation remain constant?
My attempt:
We are given that $$fracdVdt=kh$$ where $fracdVdt$ is the rate at which water leaves the tank, $V$ is the total change in water that has left the tank, and $h$ is the water's height above the drain.
If the elevation must remain constant in the tank, then I am merely finding the height in which the water that enters the tank equals to the water that leaves the tank, and therefore $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$.
To find $k$, I must do separation of variables and integrate both sides, so: $$intdV=intkhdt$$ $$V=kht+C$$
I know that $C=0$ because at $t=0$ hr, no water has left the tank ($V=0$), and at $t=6$ hr, $V=2500$ ft$^3$ and $h=5$ ft, since half the tank has drained out.
Solving for $k$: $$2500=k(5)(6)+0$$ $$k=frac2503$$
And solving for $h$ when $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$:$$100=frac2503h$$ $$h=1.2ft$$
However, the answer is actually about $1.73ft$. Where is my mistake?
calculus
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I was told that I have a cylindrical water tank $10$ ft tall that can store $5000 $ ft$^3$ of water, and that the water drains from the bottom of the tank at a rate proportional to the instantaneous water level. After $6$ hours, half of the tank has drained out from the bottom. If the drain is opened and water is added to the tank at a constant rate of $100$ $fracft^3hr$, at what height above the drain will the elevation remain constant?
My attempt:
We are given that $$fracdVdt=kh$$ where $fracdVdt$ is the rate at which water leaves the tank, $V$ is the total change in water that has left the tank, and $h$ is the water's height above the drain.
If the elevation must remain constant in the tank, then I am merely finding the height in which the water that enters the tank equals to the water that leaves the tank, and therefore $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$.
To find $k$, I must do separation of variables and integrate both sides, so: $$intdV=intkhdt$$ $$V=kht+C$$
I know that $C=0$ because at $t=0$ hr, no water has left the tank ($V=0$), and at $t=6$ hr, $V=2500$ ft$^3$ and $h=5$ ft, since half the tank has drained out.
Solving for $k$: $$2500=k(5)(6)+0$$ $$k=frac2503$$
And solving for $h$ when $fracdVdt=100fracft^3hr$:$$100=frac2503h$$ $$h=1.2ft$$
However, the answer is actually about $1.73ft$. Where is my mistake?
calculus
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Your mistake is in the solution of differential equation and in the initial boundary condition.
see the following solution:
$$fracdVdt=kh$$
$$Afracdhdt=kh$$
$$500fracdhh=kdt$$
integrate
$$500log h=kt+C$$
at $t=0, h=10ft$
so $$C=1151.3$$
at $t=6 hr, h=5 ft$
$$k=-57.76$$
now use that
$$fracdVdt=-57.76h$$
$$-100=-57.76h$$
so
$$h=1.73 ft$$
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We have a differential equation that defines the rate that water leaves the drain.
$fracdxdt = -ax\
x = C e^-at$
We know the initial conditions and after 6 hours to find our constants.
$x(0) = 10$
This gives us $C$
$x(6) = 5\
5 = 10e^-6a\
6a = ln 2\
a = fracln26$
What do we know about the dimensions of the tank?
$v = pi r^2 x\
pi r^2 = 500$
The flow out the drain equals the flow into the tank.
$fracdvdt = frac dvdxfracdxdt\
500 frac dxdt = 100\
500(fracln 26)x = 100\
x = frac65ln 2$
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Your mistake is in the solution of differential equation and in the initial boundary condition.
see the following solution:
$$fracdVdt=kh$$
$$Afracdhdt=kh$$
$$500fracdhh=kdt$$
integrate
$$500log h=kt+C$$
at $t=0, h=10ft$
so $$C=1151.3$$
at $t=6 hr, h=5 ft$
$$k=-57.76$$
now use that
$$fracdVdt=-57.76h$$
$$-100=-57.76h$$
so
$$h=1.73 ft$$
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Your mistake is in the solution of differential equation and in the initial boundary condition.
see the following solution:
$$fracdVdt=kh$$
$$Afracdhdt=kh$$
$$500fracdhh=kdt$$
integrate
$$500log h=kt+C$$
at $t=0, h=10ft$
so $$C=1151.3$$
at $t=6 hr, h=5 ft$
$$k=-57.76$$
now use that
$$fracdVdt=-57.76h$$
$$-100=-57.76h$$
so
$$h=1.73 ft$$
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Your mistake is in the solution of differential equation and in the initial boundary condition.
see the following solution:
$$fracdVdt=kh$$
$$Afracdhdt=kh$$
$$500fracdhh=kdt$$
integrate
$$500log h=kt+C$$
at $t=0, h=10ft$
so $$C=1151.3$$
at $t=6 hr, h=5 ft$
$$k=-57.76$$
now use that
$$fracdVdt=-57.76h$$
$$-100=-57.76h$$
so
$$h=1.73 ft$$
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Your mistake is in the solution of differential equation and in the initial boundary condition.
see the following solution:
$$fracdVdt=kh$$
$$Afracdhdt=kh$$
$$500fracdhh=kdt$$
integrate
$$500log h=kt+C$$
at $t=0, h=10ft$
so $$C=1151.3$$
at $t=6 hr, h=5 ft$
$$k=-57.76$$
now use that
$$fracdVdt=-57.76h$$
$$-100=-57.76h$$
so
$$h=1.73 ft$$
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We have a differential equation that defines the rate that water leaves the drain.
$fracdxdt = -ax\
x = C e^-at$
We know the initial conditions and after 6 hours to find our constants.
$x(0) = 10$
This gives us $C$
$x(6) = 5\
5 = 10e^-6a\
6a = ln 2\
a = fracln26$
What do we know about the dimensions of the tank?
$v = pi r^2 x\
pi r^2 = 500$
The flow out the drain equals the flow into the tank.
$fracdvdt = frac dvdxfracdxdt\
500 frac dxdt = 100\
500(fracln 26)x = 100\
x = frac65ln 2$
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We have a differential equation that defines the rate that water leaves the drain.
$fracdxdt = -ax\
x = C e^-at$
We know the initial conditions and after 6 hours to find our constants.
$x(0) = 10$
This gives us $C$
$x(6) = 5\
5 = 10e^-6a\
6a = ln 2\
a = fracln26$
What do we know about the dimensions of the tank?
$v = pi r^2 x\
pi r^2 = 500$
The flow out the drain equals the flow into the tank.
$fracdvdt = frac dvdxfracdxdt\
500 frac dxdt = 100\
500(fracln 26)x = 100\
x = frac65ln 2$
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add a comment |
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We have a differential equation that defines the rate that water leaves the drain.
$fracdxdt = -ax\
x = C e^-at$
We know the initial conditions and after 6 hours to find our constants.
$x(0) = 10$
This gives us $C$
$x(6) = 5\
5 = 10e^-6a\
6a = ln 2\
a = fracln26$
What do we know about the dimensions of the tank?
$v = pi r^2 x\
pi r^2 = 500$
The flow out the drain equals the flow into the tank.
$fracdvdt = frac dvdxfracdxdt\
500 frac dxdt = 100\
500(fracln 26)x = 100\
x = frac65ln 2$
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We have a differential equation that defines the rate that water leaves the drain.
$fracdxdt = -ax\
x = C e^-at$
We know the initial conditions and after 6 hours to find our constants.
$x(0) = 10$
This gives us $C$
$x(6) = 5\
5 = 10e^-6a\
6a = ln 2\
a = fracln26$
What do we know about the dimensions of the tank?
$v = pi r^2 x\
pi r^2 = 500$
The flow out the drain equals the flow into the tank.
$fracdvdt = frac dvdxfracdxdt\
500 frac dxdt = 100\
500(fracln 26)x = 100\
x = frac65ln 2$
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