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Was Woodrow Wilson really a Liberal?
Was World War I a war of liberals against authoritarians?Founding Fathers and the American Civil WarWhy were there no Internment camps for German-American Citizens in USA during WW2?Why did Stephen Ambrose believe that the election of Aaron Burr would have led to the end of the USA?Did the American Founders Debate on the Relative Size of the Government?Did Roosevelt's New Deal lift the U.S. out of the depression or did it actually prolong the Depression and cripple American capitalism?Why did Franklin Roosevelt promote Nazi sympathizer/eugenicist Frederick Osborn to high levels of office?Did a senator try to oust Woodrow Wilson from office?Why didn't the WWI Allies attack through the Vosges Mountains after 1915?What is the correct timeline of events for the boycott of the Olympic Games 1980 in MoscowWhat factors led to much higher US war bond sales and participation rates in WWII over that of WWI?
In a related question Ben Crowell asked, Was World War I a war of liberals against authoritarians? in that discussion, Woodrow Wilson was called a liberal. I have always believed, this has become a modern systemic mischaracterization of the United State's 28th President. Wilson's administration stymied progress on liberal causes of the time, including:
- Race Relations
- Womans Suffrage
- Prohibition of Child Labor
- Breaking up Monopolies (Trust Busting)
- Promoting Individual Rights over States Rights
And the policies which are most often cited as his progressive credentials are those which
- Were conservative programs previously
- Programs Wilson objected too for a significant period and only endorsed when he had no choice but to sign on
- Programs which failed to be enacted
- Programs which were were quickly repealed after being enacted
My question: Was Woodrow Wilson really a liberal?
Those who would call Wilson a Liberal often cite:
Wilson committed United States armed forces to WWI, the United States had been a country which avoided entangling itself in foreign wars prior to Wilson (Wars between rather than with foreign powers). Wilson action was thus treading new ground.
a- doing so when the war was more than half over, public opinion in the US had turned against neutrality due to unrestrictive U-boat warfare, and the nation's banking system had heavily invested in France and Great Britain's war effort.
instituted the Federal Income Tax.
a. The federal government had adopted an income tax in the 1890s, but that tax had been struck down by the Supreme Court in the case of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. before taking effect.
Started the Federal Reserve Bank.
a. Reincarnation of the Bank of the United States, the first national bank chartered by Congress which was discontinued after criticism from Liberals.Initiated the Federal Trade Commission
a. an institution dedicated to increasing trade, which reduced tariffs under Wilson- He supported raising wages of railroad workers when they threatened a nationwide strike in 1916 as well as the 8 hour work day for certain vocations including rail road workers.
- Objected to the Treaty of Versailles as too harsh on Germany - but lobbied the Senate to ratify the treaty.
- Championed the League of Nations, the fore runner of the United Nations
an organization the United States never joined.
Alternatively.
- Wilson was an southern evangelical, typically not associated with liberalism.
- Wilson inherited a desegregated civil service and segregated it.
When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
Here’s how William Keylor, professor of history and international relations at Boston University, describes the atmosphere in government when Wilson took office in 1913:
Washington was a rigidly segregated town--except for federal government agencies. They had been integrated during the post-war Reconstruction period, enabling African Americans to obtain federal jobs and work side by side with whites in government agencies. Wilson promptly authorized members of his cabinet to reverse this long-standing policy of racial integration in the federal civil service.
.
- Wilson was personal friends with Thomas Dixon Jr., the author of the book Clansman, which the Movie Birth of a Nation was based upon.
- Wilson generally thought the Klan was a positive organization. This Quote from Woodrow Wilson appears in the film, which Wilson hosted a special screening of at the White House.
- Wilson won the presidency in 1912, with the conservative vote, the liberal Republican vote being split by Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.
- Wilson revised antitrust-laws ending what was a Teddy Roosevelt policy of "trust-busting".
- Wilson Ran for office in 1912 on a States Rights Platform in opposition to progressive candidate Teddy Roosevelt's policy.
Wilson's New Freedom Program
Wilson's position in 1912 stood in opposition to Progressive party candidate Theodore Roosevelt's ideas of New Nationalism, particularly on the issue of antitrust modification. According to Wilson, "If America is not to have free enterprise, he can have freedom of no sort whatever." In presenting his policy, Wilson warned that New Nationalism represented collectivism,
- When Wilson ran for Gov of NJ in 1910, it was Conservative Democrats who recruited him and supported him not Liberals
In 1912 the progressive or liberal agenda included:
Tariff reform, - Wilson passed Tariff reform which lowered tariffs for the first time since the civil war.
Women’s suffrage, - Luke warm support for woman suffrage for first 7 years of his presidency, until violent demonstrations at the Whitehouse prompted him to speak out.
Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection.
In 1917, suffragist picketed outside of the White House demanding Wilson’s support extend beyond what they deemed as mere lip service for the cause. While at first largely peaceful, the protests later turned violent resulting in the detention of several women who then protested their incarceration with hunger strikes. Wilson was appalled when he discovered that many of these women were being force fed in the prison and finally stepped in toward the fight for women’s enfranchisement, finally joining his daughter, leading suffragist Jessie Woodrow Wilson Sayre.
Prohibition of child labor, Wilson signed the Keating-Owen Child Labor Act(1916), went in effect Sept 1, 1817 his seventh year in office, and it was repealed by Supreme Court 9 months latter.
Keating Owen Act(1916)
sought to address child labor by prohibiting the sale in interstate commerce of goods produced by factories that employed children under fourteen, mines that employed children younger than sixteen, and any facility where children under fourteen worked after 7:00 p.m. or before 6:00 a.m. or more than eight hours daily.... went into effect September 1, 1917. However, nine months later, in Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251 (1918),6 it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States
Sources:
- Pollock v. Farmers' Loan and Trust Company
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement
- Woodrow Wilson
- Keating Owen Act(1916)
- When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
- African Americans and the War
- The Life and Presidency of Woodrow Wilson
- New Freedom Program
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection
united-states political-history world-war-one
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In a related question Ben Crowell asked, Was World War I a war of liberals against authoritarians? in that discussion, Woodrow Wilson was called a liberal. I have always believed, this has become a modern systemic mischaracterization of the United State's 28th President. Wilson's administration stymied progress on liberal causes of the time, including:
- Race Relations
- Womans Suffrage
- Prohibition of Child Labor
- Breaking up Monopolies (Trust Busting)
- Promoting Individual Rights over States Rights
And the policies which are most often cited as his progressive credentials are those which
- Were conservative programs previously
- Programs Wilson objected too for a significant period and only endorsed when he had no choice but to sign on
- Programs which failed to be enacted
- Programs which were were quickly repealed after being enacted
My question: Was Woodrow Wilson really a liberal?
Those who would call Wilson a Liberal often cite:
Wilson committed United States armed forces to WWI, the United States had been a country which avoided entangling itself in foreign wars prior to Wilson (Wars between rather than with foreign powers). Wilson action was thus treading new ground.
a- doing so when the war was more than half over, public opinion in the US had turned against neutrality due to unrestrictive U-boat warfare, and the nation's banking system had heavily invested in France and Great Britain's war effort.
instituted the Federal Income Tax.
a. The federal government had adopted an income tax in the 1890s, but that tax had been struck down by the Supreme Court in the case of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. before taking effect.
Started the Federal Reserve Bank.
a. Reincarnation of the Bank of the United States, the first national bank chartered by Congress which was discontinued after criticism from Liberals.Initiated the Federal Trade Commission
a. an institution dedicated to increasing trade, which reduced tariffs under Wilson- He supported raising wages of railroad workers when they threatened a nationwide strike in 1916 as well as the 8 hour work day for certain vocations including rail road workers.
- Objected to the Treaty of Versailles as too harsh on Germany - but lobbied the Senate to ratify the treaty.
- Championed the League of Nations, the fore runner of the United Nations
an organization the United States never joined.
Alternatively.
- Wilson was an southern evangelical, typically not associated with liberalism.
- Wilson inherited a desegregated civil service and segregated it.
When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
Here’s how William Keylor, professor of history and international relations at Boston University, describes the atmosphere in government when Wilson took office in 1913:
Washington was a rigidly segregated town--except for federal government agencies. They had been integrated during the post-war Reconstruction period, enabling African Americans to obtain federal jobs and work side by side with whites in government agencies. Wilson promptly authorized members of his cabinet to reverse this long-standing policy of racial integration in the federal civil service.
.
- Wilson was personal friends with Thomas Dixon Jr., the author of the book Clansman, which the Movie Birth of a Nation was based upon.
- Wilson generally thought the Klan was a positive organization. This Quote from Woodrow Wilson appears in the film, which Wilson hosted a special screening of at the White House.
- Wilson won the presidency in 1912, with the conservative vote, the liberal Republican vote being split by Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.
- Wilson revised antitrust-laws ending what was a Teddy Roosevelt policy of "trust-busting".
- Wilson Ran for office in 1912 on a States Rights Platform in opposition to progressive candidate Teddy Roosevelt's policy.
Wilson's New Freedom Program
Wilson's position in 1912 stood in opposition to Progressive party candidate Theodore Roosevelt's ideas of New Nationalism, particularly on the issue of antitrust modification. According to Wilson, "If America is not to have free enterprise, he can have freedom of no sort whatever." In presenting his policy, Wilson warned that New Nationalism represented collectivism,
- When Wilson ran for Gov of NJ in 1910, it was Conservative Democrats who recruited him and supported him not Liberals
In 1912 the progressive or liberal agenda included:
Tariff reform, - Wilson passed Tariff reform which lowered tariffs for the first time since the civil war.
Women’s suffrage, - Luke warm support for woman suffrage for first 7 years of his presidency, until violent demonstrations at the Whitehouse prompted him to speak out.
Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection.
In 1917, suffragist picketed outside of the White House demanding Wilson’s support extend beyond what they deemed as mere lip service for the cause. While at first largely peaceful, the protests later turned violent resulting in the detention of several women who then protested their incarceration with hunger strikes. Wilson was appalled when he discovered that many of these women were being force fed in the prison and finally stepped in toward the fight for women’s enfranchisement, finally joining his daughter, leading suffragist Jessie Woodrow Wilson Sayre.
Prohibition of child labor, Wilson signed the Keating-Owen Child Labor Act(1916), went in effect Sept 1, 1817 his seventh year in office, and it was repealed by Supreme Court 9 months latter.
Keating Owen Act(1916)
sought to address child labor by prohibiting the sale in interstate commerce of goods produced by factories that employed children under fourteen, mines that employed children younger than sixteen, and any facility where children under fourteen worked after 7:00 p.m. or before 6:00 a.m. or more than eight hours daily.... went into effect September 1, 1917. However, nine months later, in Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251 (1918),6 it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States
Sources:
- Pollock v. Farmers' Loan and Trust Company
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement
- Woodrow Wilson
- Keating Owen Act(1916)
- When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
- African Americans and the War
- The Life and Presidency of Woodrow Wilson
- New Freedom Program
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection
united-states political-history world-war-one
1
Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
5 hours ago
1
@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
5 hours ago
add a comment |
In a related question Ben Crowell asked, Was World War I a war of liberals against authoritarians? in that discussion, Woodrow Wilson was called a liberal. I have always believed, this has become a modern systemic mischaracterization of the United State's 28th President. Wilson's administration stymied progress on liberal causes of the time, including:
- Race Relations
- Womans Suffrage
- Prohibition of Child Labor
- Breaking up Monopolies (Trust Busting)
- Promoting Individual Rights over States Rights
And the policies which are most often cited as his progressive credentials are those which
- Were conservative programs previously
- Programs Wilson objected too for a significant period and only endorsed when he had no choice but to sign on
- Programs which failed to be enacted
- Programs which were were quickly repealed after being enacted
My question: Was Woodrow Wilson really a liberal?
Those who would call Wilson a Liberal often cite:
Wilson committed United States armed forces to WWI, the United States had been a country which avoided entangling itself in foreign wars prior to Wilson (Wars between rather than with foreign powers). Wilson action was thus treading new ground.
a- doing so when the war was more than half over, public opinion in the US had turned against neutrality due to unrestrictive U-boat warfare, and the nation's banking system had heavily invested in France and Great Britain's war effort.
instituted the Federal Income Tax.
a. The federal government had adopted an income tax in the 1890s, but that tax had been struck down by the Supreme Court in the case of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. before taking effect.
Started the Federal Reserve Bank.
a. Reincarnation of the Bank of the United States, the first national bank chartered by Congress which was discontinued after criticism from Liberals.Initiated the Federal Trade Commission
a. an institution dedicated to increasing trade, which reduced tariffs under Wilson- He supported raising wages of railroad workers when they threatened a nationwide strike in 1916 as well as the 8 hour work day for certain vocations including rail road workers.
- Objected to the Treaty of Versailles as too harsh on Germany - but lobbied the Senate to ratify the treaty.
- Championed the League of Nations, the fore runner of the United Nations
an organization the United States never joined.
Alternatively.
- Wilson was an southern evangelical, typically not associated with liberalism.
- Wilson inherited a desegregated civil service and segregated it.
When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
Here’s how William Keylor, professor of history and international relations at Boston University, describes the atmosphere in government when Wilson took office in 1913:
Washington was a rigidly segregated town--except for federal government agencies. They had been integrated during the post-war Reconstruction period, enabling African Americans to obtain federal jobs and work side by side with whites in government agencies. Wilson promptly authorized members of his cabinet to reverse this long-standing policy of racial integration in the federal civil service.
.
- Wilson was personal friends with Thomas Dixon Jr., the author of the book Clansman, which the Movie Birth of a Nation was based upon.
- Wilson generally thought the Klan was a positive organization. This Quote from Woodrow Wilson appears in the film, which Wilson hosted a special screening of at the White House.
- Wilson won the presidency in 1912, with the conservative vote, the liberal Republican vote being split by Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.
- Wilson revised antitrust-laws ending what was a Teddy Roosevelt policy of "trust-busting".
- Wilson Ran for office in 1912 on a States Rights Platform in opposition to progressive candidate Teddy Roosevelt's policy.
Wilson's New Freedom Program
Wilson's position in 1912 stood in opposition to Progressive party candidate Theodore Roosevelt's ideas of New Nationalism, particularly on the issue of antitrust modification. According to Wilson, "If America is not to have free enterprise, he can have freedom of no sort whatever." In presenting his policy, Wilson warned that New Nationalism represented collectivism,
- When Wilson ran for Gov of NJ in 1910, it was Conservative Democrats who recruited him and supported him not Liberals
In 1912 the progressive or liberal agenda included:
Tariff reform, - Wilson passed Tariff reform which lowered tariffs for the first time since the civil war.
Women’s suffrage, - Luke warm support for woman suffrage for first 7 years of his presidency, until violent demonstrations at the Whitehouse prompted him to speak out.
Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection.
In 1917, suffragist picketed outside of the White House demanding Wilson’s support extend beyond what they deemed as mere lip service for the cause. While at first largely peaceful, the protests later turned violent resulting in the detention of several women who then protested their incarceration with hunger strikes. Wilson was appalled when he discovered that many of these women were being force fed in the prison and finally stepped in toward the fight for women’s enfranchisement, finally joining his daughter, leading suffragist Jessie Woodrow Wilson Sayre.
Prohibition of child labor, Wilson signed the Keating-Owen Child Labor Act(1916), went in effect Sept 1, 1817 his seventh year in office, and it was repealed by Supreme Court 9 months latter.
Keating Owen Act(1916)
sought to address child labor by prohibiting the sale in interstate commerce of goods produced by factories that employed children under fourteen, mines that employed children younger than sixteen, and any facility where children under fourteen worked after 7:00 p.m. or before 6:00 a.m. or more than eight hours daily.... went into effect September 1, 1917. However, nine months later, in Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251 (1918),6 it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States
Sources:
- Pollock v. Farmers' Loan and Trust Company
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement
- Woodrow Wilson
- Keating Owen Act(1916)
- When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
- African Americans and the War
- The Life and Presidency of Woodrow Wilson
- New Freedom Program
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection
united-states political-history world-war-one
In a related question Ben Crowell asked, Was World War I a war of liberals against authoritarians? in that discussion, Woodrow Wilson was called a liberal. I have always believed, this has become a modern systemic mischaracterization of the United State's 28th President. Wilson's administration stymied progress on liberal causes of the time, including:
- Race Relations
- Womans Suffrage
- Prohibition of Child Labor
- Breaking up Monopolies (Trust Busting)
- Promoting Individual Rights over States Rights
And the policies which are most often cited as his progressive credentials are those which
- Were conservative programs previously
- Programs Wilson objected too for a significant period and only endorsed when he had no choice but to sign on
- Programs which failed to be enacted
- Programs which were were quickly repealed after being enacted
My question: Was Woodrow Wilson really a liberal?
Those who would call Wilson a Liberal often cite:
Wilson committed United States armed forces to WWI, the United States had been a country which avoided entangling itself in foreign wars prior to Wilson (Wars between rather than with foreign powers). Wilson action was thus treading new ground.
a- doing so when the war was more than half over, public opinion in the US had turned against neutrality due to unrestrictive U-boat warfare, and the nation's banking system had heavily invested in France and Great Britain's war effort.
instituted the Federal Income Tax.
a. The federal government had adopted an income tax in the 1890s, but that tax had been struck down by the Supreme Court in the case of Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co. before taking effect.
Started the Federal Reserve Bank.
a. Reincarnation of the Bank of the United States, the first national bank chartered by Congress which was discontinued after criticism from Liberals.Initiated the Federal Trade Commission
a. an institution dedicated to increasing trade, which reduced tariffs under Wilson- He supported raising wages of railroad workers when they threatened a nationwide strike in 1916 as well as the 8 hour work day for certain vocations including rail road workers.
- Objected to the Treaty of Versailles as too harsh on Germany - but lobbied the Senate to ratify the treaty.
- Championed the League of Nations, the fore runner of the United Nations
an organization the United States never joined.
Alternatively.
- Wilson was an southern evangelical, typically not associated with liberalism.
- Wilson inherited a desegregated civil service and segregated it.
When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
Here’s how William Keylor, professor of history and international relations at Boston University, describes the atmosphere in government when Wilson took office in 1913:
Washington was a rigidly segregated town--except for federal government agencies. They had been integrated during the post-war Reconstruction period, enabling African Americans to obtain federal jobs and work side by side with whites in government agencies. Wilson promptly authorized members of his cabinet to reverse this long-standing policy of racial integration in the federal civil service.
.
- Wilson was personal friends with Thomas Dixon Jr., the author of the book Clansman, which the Movie Birth of a Nation was based upon.
- Wilson generally thought the Klan was a positive organization. This Quote from Woodrow Wilson appears in the film, which Wilson hosted a special screening of at the White House.
- Wilson won the presidency in 1912, with the conservative vote, the liberal Republican vote being split by Teddy Roosevelt and William Howard Taft.
- Wilson revised antitrust-laws ending what was a Teddy Roosevelt policy of "trust-busting".
- Wilson Ran for office in 1912 on a States Rights Platform in opposition to progressive candidate Teddy Roosevelt's policy.
Wilson's New Freedom Program
Wilson's position in 1912 stood in opposition to Progressive party candidate Theodore Roosevelt's ideas of New Nationalism, particularly on the issue of antitrust modification. According to Wilson, "If America is not to have free enterprise, he can have freedom of no sort whatever." In presenting his policy, Wilson warned that New Nationalism represented collectivism,
- When Wilson ran for Gov of NJ in 1910, it was Conservative Democrats who recruited him and supported him not Liberals
In 1912 the progressive or liberal agenda included:
Tariff reform, - Wilson passed Tariff reform which lowered tariffs for the first time since the civil war.
Women’s suffrage, - Luke warm support for woman suffrage for first 7 years of his presidency, until violent demonstrations at the Whitehouse prompted him to speak out.
Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection.
In 1917, suffragist picketed outside of the White House demanding Wilson’s support extend beyond what they deemed as mere lip service for the cause. While at first largely peaceful, the protests later turned violent resulting in the detention of several women who then protested their incarceration with hunger strikes. Wilson was appalled when he discovered that many of these women were being force fed in the prison and finally stepped in toward the fight for women’s enfranchisement, finally joining his daughter, leading suffragist Jessie Woodrow Wilson Sayre.
Prohibition of child labor, Wilson signed the Keating-Owen Child Labor Act(1916), went in effect Sept 1, 1817 his seventh year in office, and it was repealed by Supreme Court 9 months latter.
Keating Owen Act(1916)
sought to address child labor by prohibiting the sale in interstate commerce of goods produced by factories that employed children under fourteen, mines that employed children younger than sixteen, and any facility where children under fourteen worked after 7:00 p.m. or before 6:00 a.m. or more than eight hours daily.... went into effect September 1, 1917. However, nine months later, in Hammer v. Dagenhart, 247 U.S. 251 (1918),6 it was ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court of the United States
Sources:
- Pollock v. Farmers' Loan and Trust Company
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement
- Woodrow Wilson
- Keating Owen Act(1916)
- When Woodrow Wilson Segregated the Federal Workforce
- African Americans and the War
- The Life and Presidency of Woodrow Wilson
- New Freedom Program
- Woodrow Wilson and the Women's Suffrage Movement: A Reflection
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Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
5 hours ago
1
@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
5 hours ago
add a comment |
1
Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
5 hours ago
1
@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
5 hours ago
1
1
Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
5 hours ago
Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
5 hours ago
1
1
@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
5 hours ago
@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
5 hours ago
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As the comments go into, it depends on your definition of "Liberal".
If you go with the common usage in modern US political parlance, which essentially means "embodies everything the Republican Party is against", then no he wasn't. Not even close.
If you go with the sense of Classical Liberalism, then that was indeed fundamentally his outlook.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of
liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with
an emphasis on economic freedom.
Nobody perfectly embodies an idealized concept of course, but this was fundamentally his outlook wrt governments in the large, embodied in his 14 points:
The speech made by Wilson took many domestic progressive ideas and
translated them into foreign policy (free trade, open agreements,
democracy and self-determination).
Note that first half of the description there is economic. Classical liberals were strongly against interference in the free market, by organized cartels, unions, or governments.
In the US in the 1950's a lot of the remaining adherents to this political philosophy quit calling themselves "Liberals" and started self-identifiying as "Libertarians".
H. L. Mencken and Albert Jay Nock were the first prominent figures in
the United States to privately call themselves
libertarians. They believed Franklin D. Roosevelt had
co-opted the word liberal for his New Deal policies which they opposed
and used libertarian to signify their allegiance to individualism.
...
However, the term
libertarianism was first publicly used in the United States as a
synonym for classic liberalism in May 1955 by writer Dean Russell...
The fit may not be perfect (for one thing, the issues today are completely different), but if you are more familiar with the modern US usage of political terms, it may be easier for you to think of Wilson as a Libertarian1.
The traditional foil of the (Classical) Liberal outlook in that era was Reactionary2 which prior to WWI basically meant upholding a more traditional paternalistic political system, where power flows only from the top down, and few if any citizens have any real say in their government. This is the philosophy he was fighting in Europe, and which the war more-or-less dismantled. Of the 6 "major powers" in Europe involved in the start of that war in 1914, at the start of the war there were 4 authoritarian "Empire"s complete with inherent social classes, and at the end of the war there were 0 of them.
The question's hits against Wilson's "Liberalism" are generally not talking about Classical Liberalism at all. Instead, this is covered under a very different political philosophy that Mencken and Nock believed FDR appropriated the term to cover, and which "classical" liberals did not approve of. This new system is often today called Social Liberalism.
Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United
States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political
ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free
market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A
social liberal government is expected to address economic and social
issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state.
Its certainly true that Wilson was not one of those.
1 - Understand that "Libertarian" only has this meaning today in American English. In most of the rest of the world, Libertarians are considered far left wing, and can encompass both Marxists and Anarchists. The meaning of political words is heavily-reliant on context.
2 - Ironically this term was also appropriated in the US as a mere pejorative label to tar the other political party with
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
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@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
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As the comments go into, it depends on your definition of "Liberal".
If you go with the common usage in modern US political parlance, which essentially means "embodies everything the Republican Party is against", then no he wasn't. Not even close.
If you go with the sense of Classical Liberalism, then that was indeed fundamentally his outlook.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of
liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with
an emphasis on economic freedom.
Nobody perfectly embodies an idealized concept of course, but this was fundamentally his outlook wrt governments in the large, embodied in his 14 points:
The speech made by Wilson took many domestic progressive ideas and
translated them into foreign policy (free trade, open agreements,
democracy and self-determination).
Note that first half of the description there is economic. Classical liberals were strongly against interference in the free market, by organized cartels, unions, or governments.
In the US in the 1950's a lot of the remaining adherents to this political philosophy quit calling themselves "Liberals" and started self-identifiying as "Libertarians".
H. L. Mencken and Albert Jay Nock were the first prominent figures in
the United States to privately call themselves
libertarians. They believed Franklin D. Roosevelt had
co-opted the word liberal for his New Deal policies which they opposed
and used libertarian to signify their allegiance to individualism.
...
However, the term
libertarianism was first publicly used in the United States as a
synonym for classic liberalism in May 1955 by writer Dean Russell...
The fit may not be perfect (for one thing, the issues today are completely different), but if you are more familiar with the modern US usage of political terms, it may be easier for you to think of Wilson as a Libertarian1.
The traditional foil of the (Classical) Liberal outlook in that era was Reactionary2 which prior to WWI basically meant upholding a more traditional paternalistic political system, where power flows only from the top down, and few if any citizens have any real say in their government. This is the philosophy he was fighting in Europe, and which the war more-or-less dismantled. Of the 6 "major powers" in Europe involved in the start of that war in 1914, at the start of the war there were 4 authoritarian "Empire"s complete with inherent social classes, and at the end of the war there were 0 of them.
The question's hits against Wilson's "Liberalism" are generally not talking about Classical Liberalism at all. Instead, this is covered under a very different political philosophy that Mencken and Nock believed FDR appropriated the term to cover, and which "classical" liberals did not approve of. This new system is often today called Social Liberalism.
Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United
States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political
ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free
market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A
social liberal government is expected to address economic and social
issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state.
Its certainly true that Wilson was not one of those.
1 - Understand that "Libertarian" only has this meaning today in American English. In most of the rest of the world, Libertarians are considered far left wing, and can encompass both Marxists and Anarchists. The meaning of political words is heavily-reliant on context.
2 - Ironically this term was also appropriated in the US as a mere pejorative label to tar the other political party with
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
As the comments go into, it depends on your definition of "Liberal".
If you go with the common usage in modern US political parlance, which essentially means "embodies everything the Republican Party is against", then no he wasn't. Not even close.
If you go with the sense of Classical Liberalism, then that was indeed fundamentally his outlook.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of
liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with
an emphasis on economic freedom.
Nobody perfectly embodies an idealized concept of course, but this was fundamentally his outlook wrt governments in the large, embodied in his 14 points:
The speech made by Wilson took many domestic progressive ideas and
translated them into foreign policy (free trade, open agreements,
democracy and self-determination).
Note that first half of the description there is economic. Classical liberals were strongly against interference in the free market, by organized cartels, unions, or governments.
In the US in the 1950's a lot of the remaining adherents to this political philosophy quit calling themselves "Liberals" and started self-identifiying as "Libertarians".
H. L. Mencken and Albert Jay Nock were the first prominent figures in
the United States to privately call themselves
libertarians. They believed Franklin D. Roosevelt had
co-opted the word liberal for his New Deal policies which they opposed
and used libertarian to signify their allegiance to individualism.
...
However, the term
libertarianism was first publicly used in the United States as a
synonym for classic liberalism in May 1955 by writer Dean Russell...
The fit may not be perfect (for one thing, the issues today are completely different), but if you are more familiar with the modern US usage of political terms, it may be easier for you to think of Wilson as a Libertarian1.
The traditional foil of the (Classical) Liberal outlook in that era was Reactionary2 which prior to WWI basically meant upholding a more traditional paternalistic political system, where power flows only from the top down, and few if any citizens have any real say in their government. This is the philosophy he was fighting in Europe, and which the war more-or-less dismantled. Of the 6 "major powers" in Europe involved in the start of that war in 1914, at the start of the war there were 4 authoritarian "Empire"s complete with inherent social classes, and at the end of the war there were 0 of them.
The question's hits against Wilson's "Liberalism" are generally not talking about Classical Liberalism at all. Instead, this is covered under a very different political philosophy that Mencken and Nock believed FDR appropriated the term to cover, and which "classical" liberals did not approve of. This new system is often today called Social Liberalism.
Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United
States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political
ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free
market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A
social liberal government is expected to address economic and social
issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state.
Its certainly true that Wilson was not one of those.
1 - Understand that "Libertarian" only has this meaning today in American English. In most of the rest of the world, Libertarians are considered far left wing, and can encompass both Marxists and Anarchists. The meaning of political words is heavily-reliant on context.
2 - Ironically this term was also appropriated in the US as a mere pejorative label to tar the other political party with
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
As the comments go into, it depends on your definition of "Liberal".
If you go with the common usage in modern US political parlance, which essentially means "embodies everything the Republican Party is against", then no he wasn't. Not even close.
If you go with the sense of Classical Liberalism, then that was indeed fundamentally his outlook.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of
liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with
an emphasis on economic freedom.
Nobody perfectly embodies an idealized concept of course, but this was fundamentally his outlook wrt governments in the large, embodied in his 14 points:
The speech made by Wilson took many domestic progressive ideas and
translated them into foreign policy (free trade, open agreements,
democracy and self-determination).
Note that first half of the description there is economic. Classical liberals were strongly against interference in the free market, by organized cartels, unions, or governments.
In the US in the 1950's a lot of the remaining adherents to this political philosophy quit calling themselves "Liberals" and started self-identifiying as "Libertarians".
H. L. Mencken and Albert Jay Nock were the first prominent figures in
the United States to privately call themselves
libertarians. They believed Franklin D. Roosevelt had
co-opted the word liberal for his New Deal policies which they opposed
and used libertarian to signify their allegiance to individualism.
...
However, the term
libertarianism was first publicly used in the United States as a
synonym for classic liberalism in May 1955 by writer Dean Russell...
The fit may not be perfect (for one thing, the issues today are completely different), but if you are more familiar with the modern US usage of political terms, it may be easier for you to think of Wilson as a Libertarian1.
The traditional foil of the (Classical) Liberal outlook in that era was Reactionary2 which prior to WWI basically meant upholding a more traditional paternalistic political system, where power flows only from the top down, and few if any citizens have any real say in their government. This is the philosophy he was fighting in Europe, and which the war more-or-less dismantled. Of the 6 "major powers" in Europe involved in the start of that war in 1914, at the start of the war there were 4 authoritarian "Empire"s complete with inherent social classes, and at the end of the war there were 0 of them.
The question's hits against Wilson's "Liberalism" are generally not talking about Classical Liberalism at all. Instead, this is covered under a very different political philosophy that Mencken and Nock believed FDR appropriated the term to cover, and which "classical" liberals did not approve of. This new system is often today called Social Liberalism.
Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United
States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political
ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free
market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A
social liberal government is expected to address economic and social
issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state.
Its certainly true that Wilson was not one of those.
1 - Understand that "Libertarian" only has this meaning today in American English. In most of the rest of the world, Libertarians are considered far left wing, and can encompass both Marxists and Anarchists. The meaning of political words is heavily-reliant on context.
2 - Ironically this term was also appropriated in the US as a mere pejorative label to tar the other political party with
As the comments go into, it depends on your definition of "Liberal".
If you go with the common usage in modern US political parlance, which essentially means "embodies everything the Republican Party is against", then no he wasn't. Not even close.
If you go with the sense of Classical Liberalism, then that was indeed fundamentally his outlook.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of
liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with
an emphasis on economic freedom.
Nobody perfectly embodies an idealized concept of course, but this was fundamentally his outlook wrt governments in the large, embodied in his 14 points:
The speech made by Wilson took many domestic progressive ideas and
translated them into foreign policy (free trade, open agreements,
democracy and self-determination).
Note that first half of the description there is economic. Classical liberals were strongly against interference in the free market, by organized cartels, unions, or governments.
In the US in the 1950's a lot of the remaining adherents to this political philosophy quit calling themselves "Liberals" and started self-identifiying as "Libertarians".
H. L. Mencken and Albert Jay Nock were the first prominent figures in
the United States to privately call themselves
libertarians. They believed Franklin D. Roosevelt had
co-opted the word liberal for his New Deal policies which they opposed
and used libertarian to signify their allegiance to individualism.
...
However, the term
libertarianism was first publicly used in the United States as a
synonym for classic liberalism in May 1955 by writer Dean Russell...
The fit may not be perfect (for one thing, the issues today are completely different), but if you are more familiar with the modern US usage of political terms, it may be easier for you to think of Wilson as a Libertarian1.
The traditional foil of the (Classical) Liberal outlook in that era was Reactionary2 which prior to WWI basically meant upholding a more traditional paternalistic political system, where power flows only from the top down, and few if any citizens have any real say in their government. This is the philosophy he was fighting in Europe, and which the war more-or-less dismantled. Of the 6 "major powers" in Europe involved in the start of that war in 1914, at the start of the war there were 4 authoritarian "Empire"s complete with inherent social classes, and at the end of the war there were 0 of them.
The question's hits against Wilson's "Liberalism" are generally not talking about Classical Liberalism at all. Instead, this is covered under a very different political philosophy that Mencken and Nock believed FDR appropriated the term to cover, and which "classical" liberals did not approve of. This new system is often today called Social Liberalism.
Social liberalism (also known as modern liberalism in the United
States and left liberalism in Germany) is a political
ideology and a variety of liberalism that endorses a regulated free
market economy and the expansion of civil and political rights. A
social liberal government is expected to address economic and social
issues such as poverty, health care and education in a liberal state.
Its certainly true that Wilson was not one of those.
1 - Understand that "Libertarian" only has this meaning today in American English. In most of the rest of the world, Libertarians are considered far left wing, and can encompass both Marxists and Anarchists. The meaning of political words is heavily-reliant on context.
2 - Ironically this term was also appropriated in the US as a mere pejorative label to tar the other political party with
edited 1 hour ago
answered 4 hours ago
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+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
+1 for me, although I would ask for examples of Wilson classic liberal ideas where he advocated for civil liberties. He threw a civil rights delegation out of the White House (see William Monroe Trotter). He brutalized woman suffragettes, He segregated the Federal Civil Service. It's true he selectively wanted to lower the work weak and endorsed a minimum wage; but only for heavily unionized industries like the Rail Road industry who were threatening to strike and cripple the economy.
– JMS
4 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
@JMS - OK, I see from the comment that the terminology distinction is still a stumbling block. I've expanded on that part of the answer. Is it clearer now?
– T.E.D.♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Please define your exact interpretation of ""liberal". Understand that the term is used very differently in the U.S. compared to the rest of the English speaking world, and has also changed in meaning considerably in the century since Wilson left office.
– Pieter Geerkens
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@PieterGeerkens For the purposes of this question historic 1912-1918 United States definitions should suffice.
– JMS
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